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#31 mk3 Cooper S

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 07:46 PM

clicky

you had better tell this lot that it didn't happen and they dreamt it


Check the date of that thread mate, DVLA wont just turn up and wont check every VW in a fixed area >_<

PMSL - Good spot !!!!

Bungle - the player got played I think!!!! Lol

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 09:06 PM

clicky

you had better tell this lot that it didn't happen and they dreamt it


Check the date of that thread mate, DVLA wont just turn up and wont check every VW in a fixed area :tumble:

PMSL - Good spot !!!!

Bungle - the player got played I think!!!! Lol

Feel free to ignore his advice then, whether that link was an April Fools joke or not, the situation is definitly not a joke.

I guess you could try telling VOSA/DVLA that you thought it was all an April Fools as they tell you that your car isn't allowed on the road until you pass an IVA.

I think Bungle will be laughing then :P.

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 10:33 PM

I do actually know someone who had a very nicely rebuilt Land Rover crushed by VOSA because it didn't comply. It does happen. He was reported to them by his MOT inspector without his knowledge, the car passed the test and got a certificate, then VOSA sent him a letter asking him to present for a VIC check a couple of weeks later and it never left the inspection station. Not as a car anyway...

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Posted 01 April 2010 - 10:39 PM

No its not a joke, But that thread was, Dont read too much into things :tumble:

Edited by garrett3, 01 April 2010 - 10:44 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2010 - 10:35 AM

No its not a joke, But that thread was, Dont read too much into things :tumble:

Sorry Garrett, it was more directed at mk3 cooper s, referring to Bungle as a "player" when he's just trying to help.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 04:15 PM

will this new law affect bulk head mods for say carbs ect

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 04:20 PM

at the end of the day, if i want to modify mine i will, but i will not offer it for an iva at my own free will, unless im forced to.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 04:40 PM

will this new law affect bulk head mods for say carbs ect


yes the bulk head is listed as something that will lose a car it's identity

Monococque.

Q) What is the definition of a monococque ?

A) A design in which body and chassis are all one unit.

Q) Why does cutting into a monococque affect the vehicle identity if it retains the same shape /profile as before.

A) Cutting is considered to be modifying the vehicle from its original specification. Any modification to the chassis/monocoque body is considered to render the vehicle no longer original specification or of original identity.

Q) Is it acceptable to modify a vehicle bulkhead and/or transmission tunnel when performing an engine change or fitting another make?

A) No, Assuming this is in relation to a monocoque structure. This would be considered a modification to the structure.


lots of info on ACE's web site linked below






(and the new rules are over 20 years old, they are just being enforced more)Monococque.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:15 PM

What constitutes a monocoque is that of how an OEM manufacturer would view it. The chassis or `cage` assembly and all components that form it, less any cosmetic panels or infills that make no structural consideration to the monocoque or its component parts.
However, we must emphasis that this information is given for general guidance and each case will be judged on its merits


You have to make your own decision on what that means.

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Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:16 PM

What constitutes a monocoque is that of how an OEM manufacturer would view it. The chassis or `cage` assembly and all components that form it, less any cosmetic panels or infills that make no structural consideration to the monocoque or its component parts.
However, we must emphasis that this information is given for general guidance and each case will be judged on its merits


You have to make your own decision of what that means.



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Posted 02 October 2010 - 05:27 PM

Or "We will try and move the goalposts if it suits us, and don't think you'll get a straight answer out of us: we're not going to say anything you can hold us to account for, until we absolutely have to - i.e. when we revoke your V5."

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 11:50 PM

I've put this topic together as a summary suitable for pinning.

Please make suggestions if you think it needs altering or adding to. but bear in mind it needs to be concise and as factual as possible . Perhaps the easiest method would be to edit the existing text using a different colour for any alterations you suggest. - Or write a short reply if it's a commentary or 1st hand report on dealing with the issues.


Thanks again to Craig and Garrett who've done the real work on this.


very good and helpfull topic but how i understood the IVA check (formally SVA) although it states radically altered cars req the check if you delve further
it only applied to cars 10 years old and younger?

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Posted 21 January 2011 - 11:52 PM

at the end of the day, if i want to modify mine i will, but i will not offer it for an iva at my own free will, unless im forced to.

how i understand the test it only applies/needed to cars 10 years old or younger therefore if your modifications are to mot standard then they are fine

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 12:14 AM

I do actually know someone who had a very nicely rebuilt Land Rover crushed by VOSA because it didn't comply. It does happen. He was reported to them by his MOT inspector without his knowledge, the car passed the test and got a certificate, then VOSA sent him a letter asking him to present for a VIC check a couple of weeks later and it never left the inspection station. Not as a car anyway...



although i do not know what modifications your freinds land rover had, many land rovers like minis have been known to be a little naughty, it has been known that certain modern coil sprung chassis have had older tax exempt bodys and v5 applied to them therefore a nice moderner chasis is riding around without paying road tax, to
many this is not noticable however to a knowledgeable tester may find this as p**s taking, i once was selling a 1960s mini (spares or repair) and got bombarded by requests to sell the log book only!! now if someone was to buy it (i refused to sell it) and a apply it to a 1990 mini (without doing any work to warrant it) then that too would be seen as cheating the system and would warrant its destruction

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Posted 25 March 2011 - 03:19 PM

whats the aftermarket parts producers like spoon and that saying about this ?




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