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#1 miniboo

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:32 AM

How do i get the pins out that hold the rod change omto the selcetor shaft?

I can wiggle them about but they wont move when i try and whack them out using a punch or spmething similar

Please help

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Matt

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:44 AM

You have the right idea, Punch and a hammer... the best thing to do is, first get the car up on ramps or axle stands so you can get underneath comfortably, move the gearstick over to the reverse position ( ie having to lift the gearstick ) but don't engage the gear, this moves the forward pin into a position which is accessable with a punch and also enough room the gearbox side for it to come out..

The main thing is a correctly sized punch and a decent weight of hammer.. and give it a good whack, they are designed to be tight... I can vouch the last thing you need is for the pin to fall out as it all of a sudden no gears !!!

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 08:55 AM

Can report that this is not a good thing to happen, happily bashing along the A30 reach my junction go to change gear, swinging arm around franticly trying to find gear stick, look down gear stick lying at strange angle in passenger foot well. Yes roll pin had fallen out on way, now stuck in Forth, managed to fix it with a bit of screw driver and some zip ties.

I have always used a Jewlers type screwdriver as the shaft of the screw driver locates in the centre of the roll pin which locates it very firmly so that you can give it a good belt with a hammer.

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 09:41 AM

I once used a tapered punch to try to remove a roll pin. Not a good plan, the taper slid into the pin, opened it up and well and truly jammed! I then snapped the punch trying to remove it, then had to give it a right clouting to get the pin out....disaster!

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 09:51 AM

Is it right that the pin is hollow?

And i need to remove the pin nearest the front of the car because there is two on it.

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 09:55 AM

Also which way does this rubber seal go on?

Metal bit to the front or metal bit facing the gear stick?

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 10:24 AM

Also which way does this rubber seal go on?

Metal bit to the front or metal bit facing the gear stick?

yes! :)

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 10:28 AM

:) lmao Tarks, that doesn't help!

Metal bit needs to be at the front, so the flat face of the seal faces the gearstick.

The pin is indeed hollow, it is a piece of spring steel split down its length, so as you tap it in it expands and grips tightly.

The front pin is the best one to remove, make sure the gearbox is in reverse, as it is the best position to remove and re-fit the pin.

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 10:50 AM

Thanks Tarks that clears it right up!!! :) ;) :cry:

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:16 AM

On a similar note do you need to have the dust cover on the gear linkage or is it ok without?

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:19 AM

you don't 'need' it, but if you have the linkage off then fit one, it just helps protect the seal a bit more. I think its dirt and grime on the selector shaft that kills the seal more than anything else.

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 11:24 AM

Well my dad went and fitted the linkage without the dust cover. Best check that the rubber seal in in the hole too :@

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 01:02 PM

Got the pin out and took the rubber out and it was the same type as the new one.

Wasn't sure if it already had the alloy spacer in it aswell so didn't put that in so i hope it will be ok.

Just need to do the blower ball joint and it should be running nice.

I put duckhams 20w50 in it as this seems like the one that the majority of people use.

Thanks for the help guys




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