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If I Built A Shorty Is It Right It Would Become A Q Reg?


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#1 mcgary

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:09 AM

Hello,

I am wondering if you can help as i am planning building a shorty. I read the article on this site and thought i would email iva to see what reply i got. I am not up in all this but i take it a QNI is a Qreg?????? I have seen many photos of shorty and none of them are Q reg. Is this project going to be a hassle?

This is the reply i got_

Thank you for your email

I apologise for the delay replying to your email, I had to pass your query further up to get the answer.

We have checked with the DVLA, Vehicle Policy Group in Swansea who we take all our advice from on registration and licensing matters and they have confirmed that the Mini Shorty is classed as a radically altered vehicle (due to the monocoque chassis being cut and shortened) and will need to have IVA in order to be re-registered. The altered monocoque also means a QNI registration mark will be issued if the vehicle is successfully presented for registration.

In order to make an application for IVA, or to get specific information Contact.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 10:11 AM

yh it should become a q plate as it will classed as a kit car i think ive seen 1 or 2 q plated shorties

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 01:36 PM

In theory it would be possible to avoid a Q plate by using a new shorty shell, as would be the case if you built a kitcar out of one donor.

There's also a moot point to argue if you can prove it's been built out of one car of known age. I doubt they say you need a Q plate if you built a soft top instead.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 04:11 PM

Thank you for the replys,

I have to decide now if it is worth all the hassle.
I would like to build one but would hate to spend a fortune on it and not get it on the road.

Cheers Gary

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 06:22 PM

sorry for my ignorance but i thought it was only classed as a Q plate if the car was not built from all of the origional peices???? as my brother has 2kit cars and both have the origonal plates from the minis they were built from!!! which is leagle as i am aware!!!!

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 06:25 PM

thats because he used a new shell and the rest from the original mini

making a shorty means you lose the identity of the original shell so your just using a second hand shell with no identity

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 08:12 PM

thats because he used a new shell and the rest from the original mini

making a shorty means you lose the identity of the original shell so your just using a second hand shell with no identity

Read that back to yourself and it shows how ridiculus this situation has got.

You can use a mini for the bits and replace the shell with a new fiberglass shell made by another manufacturer and keep the ID but chop out a few inches of the original and it loses it's ID.

Things have gone mad!!!!!!!

Edited by mk3 Cooper S, 25 March 2010 - 08:24 PM.


#8 mcgary

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:16 AM

Hello Again,

So is it going to become a Q reg then? It is going to be made from one doner car. Also why is it all the ones i have seen are not Q registered?

Cheers Gary

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 11:59 AM

i think from what i understand ill summaries, someone please tell me if this is wrong

if you use a 'new' shell, ie get hold of one and cut it down, or build it from scratch, then you can transfer the id from the doner (where all the engine etc comes from)

if you cut the original shell down you will have to have it Q plated

i know which option id rather go for

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 12:13 PM

As there's no such thing as a new shorty shell it should go on a Q plate regardless, as what ever route you take you ar still modifying the monocoque.

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 12:15 PM

As there's no such thing as a new shorty shell it should go on a Q plate regardless, as what ever route you take you ar still modifying the monocoque.


hmmm, what if you had a place make one for you out of new parts? would this be considered a new shell as you have bought it as a product in theory

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 02:25 PM

Hello again,

I am just trying to work out the pros and cons of this job as i thought it would be cool to make one but i know they have no real use when it is finished apart from a laugh.
Would it be a nightmare to insure?

Cheers Gary

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 05:20 PM

what's wrong with a Q plate

it shows the insurance company and any future buyer that the car has been built properly and tested to a high standard

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 06:22 PM

As Bungle said! I really don't get why a Q plate worries so many people!

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Posted 26 March 2010 - 07:09 PM

Hello,

Yes your are right.
Whats the difference what plate is on it. It does not really matter.
It was just that all the others i have seen were not Q plates.

Thank you for the replys.




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