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#1 monkeymonk

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 04:56 PM

This has probably been asked before, but are there any 10" wheels that fit over mpi brakes?

Edited by monkeymonk, 01 August 2010 - 04:57 PM.


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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:04 PM

in short no, but someone does make a cooper s replica wheel that does but it has a huge offset etc which isnt good really

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 05:12 PM

'Replica' is very flattering! :wub: It's a chunk of alloy with some holes in it... :D

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And yes, technically they don't fit over the brakes. Those wheels are rather beside the calipers...

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And as had been said, they have a huuuge negative offset and require very large wheel arch extensions to cover them (like Sportspack arches)! IMO those huge arches long a bit wrong with such tiny wheels... But that's down to personal taste, I guess... :P

And don't confuse those wheels with the 'real' alloy replicas of the 'S' wheels! These do NOT fit 'over' the large brake! :P

Edited by Asphalt, 01 August 2010 - 05:16 PM.


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:38 AM

And don't confuse those wheels with the 'real' alloy replicas of the 'S' wheels! These do NOT fit 'over' the large brake! :tumble:

....unless you have genuine cosmic spacers wich allows you to (i guess thats cheating tho :lol: ) My particular wheels are 4.5's off a '66 cooper s :dontgetit:

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:37 AM

What are these 'genuine cosmic spacers' you talk about?

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 11:49 AM

....unless you have genuine cosmic spacers wich allows you to (i guess thats cheating tho :) ) My particular wheels are 4.5's off a '66 cooper s :lol:


That's the same principle; adding a s#!+t load of negative offset to make the wheels sit beside the calipers :P The only difference is, that the ugly wheels allready come with a very negative offset :D And that saves you adding insanely thick spacers :dontgetit:

There are a few wheels that fit over the 8.4" brake, but all require decreased resp. negative offset which is - as you showed - achievable with adding spacers.

But we all know: negative offset is a no no on a Mini! Google for 'scrub radius' :D Which is one of the most basic, most important measurements for a good suspension geometry :w00t:

What are these 'genuine cosmic spacers' you talk about?


Those are the spacers with the extension nuts, this type of spacer: http://cgi.ebay.co.u...6#ht_1804wt_942

1 1/4"! :tumble: :lol:

Edited by Asphalt, 02 August 2010 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 02 August 2010 - 12:00 PM

I see, I have a set of them but they are only used on the back.
Not too sure about running them on the front with all that 998cc powah and steering going through them!

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:36 PM

you can fit 6x10 wellers and maybe 5x10 wellers over 8.4" brakes using an 3\4 inch spacer or an inch spacer, if im not mistaken ;)

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 04:41 PM

no they fit out side of the calliper as well

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 06:29 PM

Surprised anyone still sells these.....................they were dangerous back in the 1970's on standard 850cc Minis. ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...6#ht_1804wt_942

Edited by mab01uk, 03 August 2010 - 06:30 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 07:06 PM

Surprised anyone still sells these.....................they were dangerous back in the 1970's on standard 850cc Minis. ;)

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...6#ht_1804wt_942


yup wouldn't touch the screw on extension type, scary!!

have to you use the extended studs with spacers.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 07:12 PM

ive got 10x6 wellers for my project, never actually fitted or driven on them but they fit the 8.4s if there are no balancing weights on the inside face of the rim:
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as others have said, its more 'next to' than 'over' but they fit. might spacer them a few mm to be safe, more of a shim really.

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:17 PM

ive got those wheels and they only just stick out if ypuve got no arches
ive got group 2 arches and ive had to fit spacers to fill them so that needing big arches is a bit far of the mark
no spacers and no arches
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tiny group 2 arches and spacers to fiull them
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Edited by feybrand, 03 August 2010 - 09:22 PM.


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Posted 05 September 2018 - 06:18 PM

Surprised anyone still sells these.....................they were dangerous back in the 1970's on standard 850cc Minis. :dontgetit:

http://cgi.ebay.co.u...6#ht_1804wt_942

We were told to withdraw these from sale when I was a Car Accessory Shop Manager in early 70's.

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Posted 06 September 2018 - 11:42 AM

After some racing failures, front wheel spacers were banned for motor-sport a long time ago.

 

To repeat  -  YOU DO NOT WANT FRONT WHEEL SPACERS!! The screw up the steering geometry and are basically unsafe.

 

If you want 10" wheels, fit the 7.5" discs and callipers. If you can't afford to do this, then stick with 12" wheels.






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