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#1 Andrew1408

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 05:10 PM

Talking to a mate of mine at work, he and his brother use a 4:1 petrol and methanol mix in there drag racing Subaru and gave them a jump from 500 bhp to 600 bhp.
I no in a mini it won't do that but i've looked around on the net and quite a few people use it to boost their power.
Just wondering if anyone uses methanol in their mini or has any experience with it.

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#2 HARBER07

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:11 PM

Water/methanol injection??

#3 Ivor Badger

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:27 PM

Water/methanol injection??


The methanol is there to stop the water freezing at altitude in an aircraft.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 06:37 PM

Water/methanol injection??


The methanol is there to stop the water freezing at altitude in an aircraft.



But drag cars dont go above 35000 feet...?

#5 ShoutforJoy

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:24 PM

Methanol has a higher octane rating than regular unleaded so will produce more power. I've never heard of anyone using it in anything other than full race-engined cars. I suspect that standard engines may not like the increased wear and tear.

There's a reasonable write-up on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia....i/Methanol_fuel

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 07:43 PM

I used to sell it to guys that used it in some highly tuned grass track racing bikes at the last place I worked. It burns incredibly hot, I wouldn't recommend running it in a road car unless you fancy melting a holes in the top of your pistons.

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:31 PM

no no, vegetable oil is the ******* you want, guarenteed power increease!

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:48 PM

no no, vegetable oil is the ******* you want, guarenteed power increease!


For diesels and it has to be used

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 08:51 PM

i thought all minis were diesel, im confused now, they made a petrol version?

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Posted 07 August 2010 - 11:08 PM

i thought all minis were diesel, im confused now, they made a petrol version?



My uncal uses it in his speedway/grass track bike its mentel, bit like big nitro model engines.


Random off topic question and i know it probly isnt possible and would be useless if it was.

But i always wonderd if you could make/modify an Aserise into a diesel.

#11 R1minimagic

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:48 AM

Methanol is also very corrosive so you would need to change your whole fueling system for stainless steel components and it burns much cooler than petrol so you can increase your compression ratio quite a bit but would need to change the fueling due to the density difference to get the benefits.

Edited by R1minimagic, 08 August 2010 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2010 - 09:56 AM

Also it can be VERY dangerous, even in small quantities

get a face full and swallow some and you could be in big trouble!

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 10:02 AM

And burns with a colourless flame too so you could be running round on fire and nobody would know!!

#14 ShoutforJoy

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 12:33 PM

And burns with a colourless flame too so you could be running round on fire and nobody would know!!


If I were on fire everybody would know!! lol

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Posted 08 August 2010 - 02:45 PM

The petrol ride on mowers at work have a sticker that says no more than 10% methanol on the fuel tank...




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