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#16 The Matt

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 07:11 PM

Brilliant info, thanks.

Dead handy for anyone looking to post an item out too!

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:56 AM

anyone know how much a boot floor weighs?
im looking at replacing mine

thanks

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:34 PM

Although its a large panel its not that heavy. At a guess somewhere around the 5kg to 10kg area. It also depend so whether you get one with or without the battery box fitted.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 09:28 AM

Absolutely brilliant!! Fair play! Must have taken ages! Weight does matter! Power to weight!

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:00 PM

This is superb data! I'm constantly thinking of weight saving and not having the equipment to weight odd shapes. Just threw away my steel font end with out being able to weigh it properly and compare it to carbon fibre.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:21 PM



i

quite often the same with wheels

defo not with my Wellers and minilights.
Wellers are proper heavy.


Ive got alloys on my 'other car' - and they are quite a bit heavier than the steels

If I knew how much heavier , I wouldn't have bought them - Chinese carp

real minilites are really light

Jynx's wheels are as follows ..
10.0kg steel wheel
10.1kg alloy wheel - both part worn Tyre's (alloy's Tyre wider) and nuts bigger - but no wheel trim


Glad I've now got 10 x 6 magnesium minilites!

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 12:27 PM

Cheers guys, I’ve been weighing stuff for about two years now.

Here’s an updated list with a couple more weights added, I’ve also started to get things in alphabetical order too :)


Weights
Kerb Weights:
Mk 1 Saloon (Rubber Cone Suspension): 587 kg
Mk1 Saloon (Hydrolastic Suspension): 634.5 kg
Van: 605 kg approx
Traveller & Countryman: 660 kg
Pickup: 604 kg
Moke: 562 kg

BODY
Bodyshell (Bare): 140.6 kg
Bonnet Hook Safety Catch: 0.051 kg
Bonnet Locking Pin & Spring: 0.075 kg
Bonnet Mk2: 7.7 kg
Bonnet Mk3 (Stripped): 5.900 kg
Bonnet Prop & Fixings Mk3: 0.145 kg
Bonnet Release Lever Mechanism Assembly: 0.293 kg
Boot Badge (Mini 1000) Mk3: 0.052 kg
Boot Handle & Catch Assembly Mk3: 0.272 kg
Boot Hinge & Fixings each: 0.185 kg
Boot Lid Cables & Fixings each side: 0.022 kg
Boot Lid Mk2 (Standard with parts fitted): 7.5 kg
Boot Lid Mk2 (Stripped): 5.8 kg
Boot Lid Mk3 (Stripped): 5.9 kg
Boot Number Plate Light Unit & Fixings Mk3: 0.495 kg
Boot Rubber Seal Mk3: 0.254 kg
Boot Rubber Seal Clips x 26 Mk3: 0.019 kg
Bumpers (Chrome) each: 1.650 kg
Bumper Over Rider each: 0.260 kg
Companion Bin Cards pair: 0.390 kg
"C" Pillar Cards pair: 0.209 kg
Dash Ashtray Mk3: 0.063 kg
Dash Bottom Rail Cover Mk3: 0.413 kg
Dash Card: 0.540 kg
Dash Centre Binnacle (Including Speedo, Water & Oil Gauges): 1.262 kg
Door Catch/Lock Assembly Mk3 (On Door): 0.321 kg
Door Catch/Jam & Striker Plate Mk3 (On Body Pillar): ? kg
Door Handle Mk3 (including lever): 0.355
Door Lock Lever Assembly Mk3: 0.064 kg
Door Hinge Lower Mk3: 0.283 kg
Door Hinge Upper Mk3: 0.296 kg
Door Mk 1 & 2 Complete (Not including hinges): 15.0 kg
Door Mk3 with side impact bar. Complete with hinges (Not including mirror): 18,6 kg
Door Card Mk3 on (each): 1.128 kg
1/4 Panel Card each: 0.784 kg
Door Catch Assembly (Body Pillar) each side: 0.193 kg
Door Check Mk3 each: 0.067 kg
Door Exterior Handle & Fixings Mk3 each: 0.363 kg
Door Glass & Channel Mk3 each side: 4.365 kg
Door Glass Front Section Mk1 & 2 (per door): 1.913 kg
Door Glass Front Section Catch Mk1 & 2 (per door): 0.030 kg
Door Glass Rear Section Mk1 & 2 (per door): 1.402 kg
Door Glass Rear Section Catch Mk1 & 2 (per door): 0.027 kg
Door Interior Handle & Fixings Mk3 each: 0.042 kg
Door Locking Lever Mechanism Mk3 each: 0.066 kg
Door Opening Lever & Fixings Mk3 each: 0.038 kg
Door Release Rod Mechanism each: 0.203 kg
Door Skin Steel (Mk3): 4.079 kg
Door Window Winder Handle Mk3 each: 0.035 kg
Firewall Hole Cover Rear Mk3: 0.163 kg
Flitch Panel Air Vent Blanking Cover each: 0.052 kg
Front Grille Bonnet Trim Mk2 & 3 0.115 kg
Front Grille Side Trim Mk2 & 3 (each side) 0.051 kg
Front Grille 8 Slat Mk3 1.176 kg
Front Panel 4.185 kg
Front Wing (early) 2.340 kg
Interior Mirror Mk3 & Fixings: 0.113 kg
Number Plate (Plastic) each: 0.231 kg
Number Plate (Pressed Alloy) each: 0.187 kg
Parcel Shelf Card: 0.721 kg
Rear Wheel Arch Trim pair: 0.056 kg
Rear Companion Bin (each): 0.900 kg approx
Rear Companion Bin Trim (each): 0.100 kg approx
Rear Light Unit Mk2/3 & Rubber Gasket each side: 0.651 kg
Rear Quarter Window (Opening) Mk1 & 2 each: 3.218 kg
Rear Quarter Window (Opening) Mk3 each: 3.373 kg
Rear Seat Squab (Mk3 Cloth with Vinyl edges): 2.298 kg
Rear Seat Cushion (Mk3 Cloth with Vinyl edges): 2.225 kg
Seam Trim (each): 0.100 kg approx
Seam Trim Clips (x 4 trims): 0.030 kg approx
Subframe Front Dry (early twin bolt): 16.7 kg
Subframe Tower Spacer Plate (each): 0.138 kg
Subframe Top Mount Tab Plates Twin Bolt Including Rubber Grommet (each): 0.030 kg
Subframe Top Mount Bolt Twin Bolt (each): 0.062 kg
Subframe (Rear): 14.2 kg
Subframe (Rear) Front Mounting Pin & Nut (per side): 0.197 kg
Subframe (Rear) Trunnion early (each): 0.181 kg
Window (Rear Mk2 on): 4.090 kg
Window Rear Rubber Seal (Mk3 on): 1.054 kg
Windscreen Front (Laminated): 5.700 kg
Windscreen Front Rubber Seal (without insert): 1.152 kg
Windscreen Front Rubber Seal Insert: 0.217 kg
Window Winder Mechanism each: 1.510 kg

ENGINE
Alternator: 4.335 kg
Alternator Adjustment Bracket: 0.051 kg
Alternator Adjustment Bracket Bolt, Nut & Washers: 0.033 kg
Alternator to Adjustment Bracket Bolt & Washer: 0.014 kg
Alternator Mounting Bracket to Block A+: 0.075 kg
Alternator Mounting Bracket Bolts Flanged x 2: 0.024 kg
Alternator Mounting Bolts, Nuts & Washers x 2: 0.054 kg
Big End Connecting Rod Bearing Set: 0.182 kg
Camshaft SW05-07: 1.850 kg
Camshaft Woodruff Key: 0.002 kg
Camshaft Followers x 8: 0.369 kg
Camshaft Thrust Plate: 0.033 kg
Cam Thrust Plate 1/4" UNF Bolts & Star Washers x 3: 0.021 kg
Camshaft Duplex Vernier Sprocket: 0.725 kg
Camshaft Key Washer: 0.043 kg
Camshaft Lock Tab Washer: 0.014 kg
Camshaft Retaining Nut: 0.027 kg
Cooling Fan Plastic 11 Blade: 0.165 kg
Connecting Rods x 4: 2.600 kg approx
Core Plugs x 5: 0.080 kg
Countersink Screws on Timing Plate for Duplex Gears: 0.008 kg
Crankshaft Duplex Sprocket: 0.323 kg
Crankshaft Oil Thrower: 0.026 kg
Crankshaft Main Bearings Set: 0.170 kg
Crankshaft Pulley Bolt: 0.144 kg
Crankshaft Pulley Locking Tab Washer: 0.014 kg
Crankshaft Pulley TAM2011: 1.290 kg
Crankshaft Sprocket Packing Washer: 0.000.5 kg
Crankshaft Thrust Washer Set: 0.076 kg
Crankshaft Woodruff Key: 0.004 kg
Cylinder Head 12G940B Valves Fitted: 13.852 kg approx
Cylinder Head 12G940 MG Valves Fitted: 12.50 kg approx
Cylinder Head Gasket: 0.092 kg
Cylinder Head Studs & Nuts Short x 5: 0.320 kg
Cylinder Head Studs & Nuts Long x 4: 0.344 kg
Distributor 65DM4 Electronic: 0.796 kg
Distributor Clamp: 0.081 kg
Distributor Clamp Bolt & Washer: 0.026 kg
Distributor Drive Spindle A+: 0.194 kg
Dipstick A+ Stainless Steel: 0.90 kg
Dynamo Rear Mounting Bracket: 0.101 kg
Duplex Timing Chain: 0.081 kg
Engine Earth Strap: 0.059 kg
Engine to Gearbox Bolts, Washers, Studs & Nuts: 0.130 kg
Exhaust Centre Pipe Section RC40 (Twin Box): 1.237 kg
Exhaust Fitting Kit RC40: 0.820 kg
Exhaust Manifold LCB (Fletcher): 2.705 kg
Exhaust Manifold LCB “Y” Piece Including Brackets (Fletcher): 0.940 kg
Exhaust Twin Box Section RC40 (Side Entry): 5.557 kg
Exhaust Valve 29,2mm each: 0.046 kg
Fuel, Water, Oil Pump & Oil Filter Housing Gaskets: 0.004 kg
Fuel Pump Blanking Plate: 0.055 kg
Fuel Pump Blanking Plate Bolts & Washers x 2: 0.026 kg
HT Leads set of 5 x 8mm Silicone: 0.250 kg
Inlet Manifold CAM6618 (Worked): 0.744 kg
Inlet Valve 33.33mm each: 0.050 kg
Manifold Gasket: 0.041 kg
Oil Filler Cap (Black): 0.034 kg
Oil Filler Cap (Red): 0.043 kg
Oil Filter Housing & Oil Feed Pipe: 0.315 kg
Oil Filter Housing Studs, Nuts & Washers x 2: 0.060 kg approx
Oil Feed Pipe Banjo Bolt & Washers: 0.064 kg
Oil Filter Spin On: 0.309 kg
Oil Pressure Relief Assembly: 0.070 kg
Oil Pump: 0.493 kg
Oil Pump Bolts Flanged x 2: 0.025 kg
Primary Gear with Bush: 0.570 kg
Primary Gear "C" Washer Assembly: 0.038 kg
Primary Gear Thrust Washer: 0.018 kg
Push Rods x 8 (1275): 0.421 kg
Rocker Cover Alloy CAM6822: 0.748 kg
Rocker Cover Brackets for splash guard: 0.061 kg
Rocker Cover Steel: 0.586 kg
Rocker Cover Gasket: 0.025 kg
Rocker Post Stud & Nut Short x 2: 0.059 kg
Rocker Post Stud & Nut Long x 2: 0.067 kg
Rocker Shaft Assembly: 1.489 kg
Rocker Stud Tab: 0.004 kg
Rotor Arm for 65DM4: 0.016 kg
Standard Flywheel 7.58 kg
Spark Plugs x 4: 0.800 kg
Starter Motor Inertia 4.4 kg
Starter Motor Pre-engaged 4.5 kg
Thermostat: 0.057 kg
Timing Chain Back Plate (Alloy): 0.388 kg
Timing Chain Cover A+ with Breather: 0.621 kg
Timing Cover 1/4" Bolts, Plain & Locking Washers x 6: 0.042 kg
Timing Cover Crankshaft Oil Seal: 0.023 kg
Timing Plate: 1.000 kg
Timing Plate 5/16" Bolts & Washers x 6: 0.076 kg
Timing Plate & Cover Gaskets: 0.014 kg
Valve Spring (Single) each: 0.040 kg
Valve Spring Cap each: 0.015 kg
Valve Stem Collets x 8 Pairs: 0.016 kg
Valve Stem Seals x 4: 0.006 kg
Water Pump Bolts Flanged x 4: 0.079 kg
Water Pump Pulley 3.7/8": 0.231 kg
Water Pump Pulley 4.11/16": 0.290 kg
Water Pump (without bypass): 0.865 kg
Water Temperature Sender Switch: 0.030 kg

TRASMISSION
Clutch Case Cover with Verto Lever: 2.100 kg
Clutch Friction Plate Verto: 0.825 kg
Clutch Master Cylinder: 0.680 kg
Clutch Master Cylinder Clevis Pin & Split Pin: 0.008 kg
Clutch Pressure Back Plate Standard Lightened (Pre Verto): 1.978 kg
Clutch Pressure Back Plate Standard (Pre Verto): 2.600 kg*
Clutch Pressure Plate Assembly (Verto): 4.2 kg
Clutch Slave Cylinder (Pre-Verto): 0.540 kg
Clutch Shouldered Bolts Competition Long x 3: 0.064 kg
Clutch Shouldered Bolts Competition Short x 3 0.053 kg
Clutch Spring Anchor Tab: 0.005 kg
CV Joint Outer (each): 1.700 kg
Drive Shaft Nearside Short: 1.286 kg
Drive Shaft Offside Long: 1.575 kg
Flywheel Housing (A+): 3.231 kg
Flywheel Standard Pre Verto: 7.580 kg
Flywheel Lightened Standard Pre Verto: 6.050 kg
Flywheel Bolt: 0.105 kg
Gearbox (Including all gears & differential): 26 kg approx
Gear Lever Rod Change without Gearknob: 0.651 kg
Gear Lever Rubber Gaiter (remote change): 0.173 kg
Hub Front (with bearings fitted): 1.337 kg
Hub to Brake Disc Bolts x 4 (per side): 0.064 kg
Hub Wheel Stud Standard (each): 0.019 kg
Remote Gearchange Rear Support Bracket (Including Nuts, Bolts & Washers: 0.306 kg
Rod Gearchange Linkage (Including Support Bracket): 2.095 kg

SUSPENSION
Bumpstop early two stud including Nuts & Washers (per side): 0.089 kg
Front Suspension Alloy Cone Strut Including Knuckle Joint (each): 0.295 kg
Front Suspension Bottom Arm (each): 0.840 kg
Front Suspension Bottom Arm Bushes (per side): 0.037 kg
Front Suspension Bottom Arm Pin including Nut & Washer (per side): 0.219 kg
Front Upper Arm Complete Assembly Knuckle Joint, Nuts, Bolts & Washers (each): 2.392 kg
Genuine Rubber Suspension Cone (each): 0.904 kg
Knuckle Joint (each): 0.136 kg
Radius Arm including Pin, Bush & Bearing (each): 5.089 kg
Radius Arm Fully Built Including Non Spacered Drum (each): 11.500 kg
Rear Hub Nut (per side): 0.028 kg
Rear Subframe Poly Bushes x 4 (per side): 0.042 kg
Rear Suspension Alloy Cone Strut Including Knuckle Joint (each): 0.670 kg
Rebound Buffer (per side): 0.023 kg
Shock Absorbers Front Gaz Adjustable (each): 1.416 kg
Shock Absorbers Front Standard (each): 0.818 kg
Shock Absorbers Rear Gaz Adjustable (each): 1.520 kg
Shock Absorbers Rear Standard (each): 0.650 kg
Shock Absorber to Radius Arm Nut & Washers (per side): 0.017 kg
Shock Absorber Top Mount (per side): 0.409 kg
Tie Bar Rod Heavy Duty Ajustable (each): 0.845 kg
Tie Bar Rod Standard (each): 0.498 kg
Tie Bar Rod to Bottom Arm Nut & Bolt (per side): 0.024 kg
Tie Bar Rod Front Nut & Washer (per side): 0.045 kg

STEERING
Rack Retaining "U" Bolts & Nuts (pair): 0.139 kg
Steering Column complete with Steering Wheel Nut & Steering Lock: 2.573 kg
Steering Column Bracket (Painted): 0.090 kg
Steering Column Bracket (Chrome): 0.096 kg
Steering Column Bracket Shear Bolts & Washers (pair): 0.037 kg
Steering Column Bracket Shear Bolt Back Plate: 0.040 kg
Steering Column to Bracket Nut, Bolt & Washer: 0.034 kg
Steering Column Cowling (Mk3): 0.172 kg
Steering Rack: 3.661 kg
Track Rod End Long (each): 0.312 kg
Swivel Hub with Bearings, Steering Arm & Joints: 3.055kg

BRAKES
Brake Caliper Pad Split Pins x 2 (per side): 0.012 kg
Brake Drum Rear Alloy Finned Biult In Spacer (each): 1.750 kg
Brake Drum Rear Non Spacered (each): 2.288 kg
Brake Drum Retaining Screws Short x 2 (per side): 0.006 kg
Brake Light Pressure Switch & 2 Way Union Assembly: 0.132 kg
Brake Pads 8.4" (per side): 0.302 kg
Brake Pad Clip 8.4" (per side): 0.006 kg
Brake Regulator Valve (Early): 0.356 kg
Brake Union 3 Way: 0.054 kg
Caliper Alloy Four Pot: 1.15 kg
Caliper Metro Four Pot: 3.48 kg
Caliper Two Pot 7.5": 2.66 kg
Caliper Two Pot 8.4": 3.479 kg
Caliper 8.4" Mounting Bolts & Washers (per side): 0.053 kg
Disc 8.4": 2.906 kg
Disc 8.4” Back Plate (each): 0.365 kg
Handbrake Cable Back Plate Bracket (per side): 0.074 kg
Handbrake Cable Drum Lever: 0.107 kg
Handbrake Fairlead Plate x 4: 0.036 kg
Handbrake Lever (early two cable) including mounting nuts, bolts & washers: 0.780 kg
Handbrake Lever (later single cable) including mounting nuts, bolts & washers: 0.510 kg
Handbrake Lever Grip (late): 0.071 kg
Handbrake Quadrant (per side): 0.112 kg
Handbrake Quadrant Bolt, Nut & Washer (per side): 0.050 kg
Hub & Disc 8.4" Assembly: 4.389 kg
Master Cylinder Single (early): 0.610 kg
Master Cylinder Clevis Pin & Split Pin: 0.008 kg
Rear Brake Back Plate: 0.826 kg
Rear Brake Back Plate Bolt, Nut & Washer x 3 (per side): 0.066 kg
Rear Brake Cylinder: 0.351 kg
Rear Brake Cylinder "C" Clip & Gasket (per cylinder): 0.003 kg
Rear Brake Shoes Pair (per side): 0.464 kg
Rear Hub Including Bearings, Nut, Split Pin, & Cap: 1.445 kg

MISCELANEOUS
Fluids
Coolant Capacity: Water 1 Pint approx 0.600 kg
Petrol Per Gallon (Dependant on temperature): 6.1 lbs (2.8 kg)
Water (per pint): 1.0375 lbs (0.5 kg)

Fuel System
Fuel Tank 5.5 Gallon (25.0034 Litres): 4.437 kg
Fuel Tank Retaining Strap 5.5 Gallon: 0.318 kg
Locking Petrol Cap: 0.137 kg

Engine Bay
Horn Mk3 Factory Fitted: 0.775 kg
Master Cylinder Mounting Plate: 0.110 kg
Voltage Regulator Control Box: 0.427 kg
Windscreen Washer Bottle Including Electric Pump: 0.275 kg
Windscreen Washer Pipe Assembly Including "T" Piece (bulkhead mounted): 0.026 kg
Wiper Hole Blanks Stainless (pair): 0.041
Wiper Mechanism (Mk3): 0.579 kg
Wiper Motor 2 Speed (Mk3): 1.628 kg
Wiper Motor to Body Rubber Pad: 0.026 kg
Wiper Motor to Body Rubber Pad: 0.026 kg
Wiper Mounting Bracket Including Rubber: 0.098 kg

Interior
Accelerator Pedal (without rubber): 0.272 kg
Dash Ashtray: 0.061 kg
Door Release Rod Mechanism (each): 0.203 kg
Pedal Box: 2.100 kg
Roll Cage Safety Devices Six Point Bolt In (Including Fixings):
Roll Cage Rear Section with Diagonal: 15 kg
Roll Cage Front Section: 10 kg
Roll Cage Dash Bar: 3 kg
Roll Cage Door Bar (Each): 2.5 kg
Seat Cobra Classic (not including Subframe) 6.1 kg
Seat Mamba Classic (not including Subframe) 6.7 kg
Seat Cross Member Front Mount (Mk3 bolt-on) Each: 0.144 kg
Seat Catch Floor Brackets (each): 0.272 kg
Sound Deadening (floor & rear quarter panels: 9.0 kg approx

Wheels & Outer Trim
Headlamp Ring Trim (each): 0.149 kg
Wiper Arm Complete including Blade (each): 0.110 kg
Wiper Hole Blanks Stainless (pair): 0.041
Wiper Wheelbox Bezels Chrome Including Nuts & Seals (pair): 0.682 kg
Wheel Cooper S Steel 10" x 4.5" with 165/70 x10" Tyre: 9.000 kg*
Wheel Cooper 12" x 4.5" with 145/60 x12" Tyre: 9.200 kg*
Wheel Nut (chrome): 0.035 kg
Wheel Minilite Alloy 10" x 5" (wheel only): 3.770 kg
Wheel Minilite Alloy 12" x 5" (wheel only): 4.570 kg
Wheel Minilite Alloy 13" x 6" (wheel only): 6.510 kg
Wheel Minilite Magnesium 10" x 6" (wheel only): 2.925 kg*
Wheel Sports Pack Alloy 13" x 6" (wheel only): 6.760 kg
Wheel Super Light Alloy 13" x 6" (wheel only): 5.620 kg
Wheel Super Light Alloy 13" x 7" with 175/50 x13" Tyre: 12.100 kg*

Fresh Air Ducts & Heating
Air Intake Inner Wing Duct (Mk3): 0.170 kg
Air Intake Hose to Distribution Box (Mk3): 0.180 kg
Demister Duct Left Hand Including Screws (Mk3): 0.046 kg
Demister Duct Right Hand Including Screws (Mk3): 0.057 kg
Distribution Box Including Nuts, Washers & Seal (early Mk3 without face vents): 0.249 kg
Heater Box Metal Case (Mk3): 4.4 kg
Heater Matrix (Metal): 1.226 kg
Hose Inner Wing to Heater (Mk3): 0.081 kg
Hose Heater to Demister Left Hand Duct (Mk3): 0.037 kg
Hose Heater to Demister Right Hand Duct (Mk3): 0.037 kg

Electric
Fuse Box 1976-96 (Including the 4 fuses plus 2 spares): 0.081 kg
Headlamp Bowl Inner & Rim Lamp Holder (each): 0.221 kg
Headlamp Bowl Metal (each): 0.270 kg
Indicator Switch Assembly Single Stalk (Mk3): 0.199 kg
Rear Light Unit Mk2 (Including Rubber Gasket): 0.649 kg
Wiper Mechanism (Mk3): 0.579 kg
Wiper Motor 2 Speed (Mk3): 1.628 kg
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Posted 12 December 2011 - 04:50 PM

Are the brake caliper weights with or without pistons?

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 05:38 PM

With :)

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 07:50 PM

Is it sad that Im reading down the list and nodding in agreement that it matches the numbers I have! :highfive:

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:01 PM

With :)


Blimey!

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:02 PM

Haha! I'm so glad I'm not the only sad one around here :highfive:

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:06 PM

Anyone know the weight of a carbon fibre front end ( without the bonnet type)

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:10 PM

yes.. one of mine or a 'carbon but actually 95% fibreglass and gelcoat' one?

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Posted 12 December 2011 - 08:27 PM

A proper one. But no weave showing.




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