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[Artful Dodger]

how much do you pay for raw materials? id say 4 grand would be good, as you would be rivalling the heratage shells. if i had the choice id get a carbon one ;P

[Beej123]

I would say around 5K then at least. It would still rival heritage shells, if I was spending 4K I wouldn't worry about spending another 1K and not having to worry about rust! If it accepts all the standard gear then 5K easily, maybe 6

[Body stylist]

interesting how people are comparing to heritage shells

you have to paint them, and they will still rust.....

[Jamie_hail]

I'd say a 35% mark up on material cost, due to the whole mouldings, labour ect... And the fact it takes standard fittings - that makes it worth a lot more. I'd happily pay 6/6500!

I know carbon is stronger than steel - but it has always seemed to have a little more 'give' in my opinion... Does the car not feel a bit flexy when hammering it through bends?

[Midas Mk1]

interesting how people are comparing to heritage shells

you have to paint them, and they will still rust.....

interesting how people are comparing to heritage shells

you have to paint them, and they will still rust.....

Love these - but the cost of painting a heritage shell will surely = the cost / kit needed for an Iva.

Edited by Midas Mk1, 23 December 2011 - 05:58 PM.

[JustSteve]

What would i be prepared to pay? - between 3.5 to 4 k realistically.


If it was much more than that, I'd buy a minus shell I think.


What sort of price would these be for sale, if you do put them into production? also, how thick is the CF?


EDIT- just realised that they come with boot, bonnet and doors (unlike a minus) and so I reckon I'd be prepared to pay a bit more, but I don't think I'd pay more that 4.5k

Edited by JustSteve, 23 December 2011 - 06:57 PM.

[leadly]

I'm in love.

I'd be happy with 4k ish......so come on, what are you thinking as a rough figure?

[SpeedView]

Shiny!

Is that a 'black metal' shell (lots of cloth laid up for an 'isotropic' laminate with through-bolts and spreaders for loadbearing) or do we have UD in there with structural foam/honeycomb and Ti inserts etc? Wet layup and vacuum bagged or vacuum infused/prepreg and autoclaved? Cure temp? (what proportion of that is fibre, what proportion is resin)

It looks like a solid iso layup, wet or vacuum infused, and vac bagged/low temp cured from the photos. Doesn't make best use of the material properties, but the kit looks nice and complete!



Metal rollhoop and metal frontends are a definitely a good idea; they soak up masses of energy and deformation in the event of a shunt. Thought about a shell that (structurally) finished at a rear bulkhead, with a purely cosmetic bum moulding? (could be part of the same layup, just lightly laid and lightly glued on) Take wherever the back of a front seat would finish/the main rollhoop would sit and build structurally to there. (composite safety cell) Use ironmongery to support both front and rear subframes:

http://www.cartype.c...rbon-tub_11.jpg
http://www.egarage.c...-carbon-tub.jpg
http://theblogofcars...enmp412c035.jpg
http://63.240.88.234...ght-savings.jpg

Pop UD and structural foam around the door openings and where a rollhoop would usually go (basically lay a spaceframe into there) and you'd have a very interesting proposition.

[mini-luke]

I want one

Gotta be worth £6k all day

[superman]

wow, nice, great, very clever, this is the way the mini scene should be going...........................what about a shortie????

[The Matt]

All up weight as per estimates? If it's based on the design I'm thinking of, it's also lighter than a steel shell yeah?

Also, probably stiffer than a steel shell (again, if it's the design I'm thinking of).

Very, very interesting piece of kit.

£5k minimum, realistically though, I guess it's all about the market. I know if I had £5k to spend on a heritage shell, I'd rather go for a CF sprint instead.

[MIGLIACARS]

that really does look the b*llocks, if i was to build a racer from scratch this is the way id go.

how much are you selling them for

[Mini 360]

5-5.5k for me. Totally worth it

[Tupers]

I couldn't imagine anyone being able to sell these for less that £6K and be making money one them.

[George929]

what would be good is if you could make these with tubbed rear arches and cut front arches for the slammed look i would pay 5.500 for it