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[Craig914]

After getting home from working away for a few weeks I return home to a mountain of parts, one of them being a set of wheels I bought from a user from the forum.

So I thought I would get them fitted, rang around a few garages for the best price to switch my current tyres over to the new wheels. Got a price £25, Went to the garage and my wheels wouldn't fit on the tyre machine so they sent me to a backstreet garage around the corner, where I seen about 7 lads rolling an old fiesta onto its roof ( I know I should of turned around at this point).

After them all asking about my car and making stupid offers on it, we eventually got the wheels and tyres off. Put the new tyres on the new rims (12x6 rose petals). Tried putting the new wheels on and the hub nuts were nowhere near long enough to get the bolts on, so the old wheels were getting tyres when one of them sat on my bootlid and snapped the bracket! So that went on the back seats after taking 20quid off the lad.

Eventually putting the new wheels on one of them sheered my front hub nut clean off! ! So put the car on 3 bolts and drove it home ( I'd had enough! )

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So my eventually my question is can I fit new longer hub nuts (front disks, rear drums) Or do I need new hubs?

I sorted the boot anyway, my mates dad had a spare one knocking about.

Sorry for the rant but I just couldn't believe my luck today!

[freaker]

ive you look at minispares website for example you will see all different lengths in wheel studs

 

there are some pretty long ones :)

 

freaker

[Dan]

  You mean studs, not nuts.  But yes you can fit longer ones and replace the broken one.  It's easy to do as they are just an interference fit into a splined hole, but you will probably need the hubs off the car to make the swap as longer ones won't wiggle into place.

[Craig914]

  You mean studs, not nuts.  But yes you can fit longer ones and replace the broken one.  It's easy to do as they are just an interference fit into a splined hole, but you will probably need the hubs off the car to make the swap as longer ones won't wiggle into place.

So basically I knock the old ones out with a hammer and slide new ones then the wheel pulls it tight?

[Dan]

  Yes basically but it's often best to fully seat the stud first with a wheel nut and a spacer instead of using the wheel.  Especially with an alloy.  Oh and if they are 8.4" discs then you will definitely need to strip down the front hubs, should have said before.

Edited by Dan, 24 May 2013 - 05:41 PM.

[Craig914]

So a set of wheel studs and a pair of spacers will do me? And some spare time! Something i don't have a large amount of

[Dan]

  I don't mean wheel spacers, just something to space it out and stop the nut bottoming out so it can keep puling on the stud.  Another larger nut, or a socket or some tube.

[Craig914]

  I don't mean wheel spacers, just something to space it out and stop the nut bottoming out so it can keep puling on the stud.  Another larger nut, or a socket or some tube.

Sweet I get you! Cheers mate how would I work out what size stud I will need?

[Dan]

  Measure what you have now, add on how much longer they need to be to seat properly into the new wheel nuts.  If the nuts have a through bore then ideally you will have a couple of threads protruding through the nut when fitted.  If the nuts are solid then get the longest size studs that will allow the nuts to clamp the wheel so that the stud passes as far as possible into the nut.  Studs are measured from the edge of the countersink at the top to the end of the thread.  So when measuring fitted ones you measure from the rear face of the flange they are mounted into.

[Craig914]

  Measure what you have now, add on how much longer they need to be to seat properly into the new wheel nuts.  If the nuts have a through bore then ideally you will have a couple of threads protruding through the nut when fitted.  If the nuts are solid then get the longest size studs that will allow the nuts to clamp the wheel so that the stud passes as far as possible into the nut.  Studs are measured from the edge of the countersink at the top to the end of the thread.  So when measuring fitted ones you measure from the rear face of the flange they are mounted into.

Cheers! Best get the tape measure out tomorrow. Only have 3studs/ nuts till I source new ones

[Captain Mainwaring]

 

  I don't mean wheel spacers, just something to space it out and stop the nut bottoming out so it can keep puling on the stud.  Another larger nut, or a socket or some tube.

Sweet I get you! Cheers mate how would I work out what size stud I will need?

 

Stop - you sure that you're using the right kind of wheel nut to go with the wheels you are using? Some nuts have a seating washer and a 5/8" shank that recesses into the wheel itself.

I'd look very carefully at the nuts you are using before you go extending studs - could leave the wheel dangerously without support.

Edited by Captain Mainwaring, 24 May 2013 - 11:21 PM.

[Craig914]

 

  I don't mean wheel spacers, just something to space it out and stop the nut bottoming out so it can keep puling on the stud.  Another larger nut, or a socket or some tube.

Sweet I get you! Cheers mate how would I work out what size stud I will need?
 

Stop - you sure that you're using the right kind of wheel nut to go with the wheels you are using? Some nuts have a seating washer and a 5/8" shank that recesses into the wheel itself.
I'd look very carefully at the nuts you are using before you go extending studs - could leave the wheel dangerously without support.

They would have to be some long nuts to fit all the way down the wheel there is quite a distance to cover the old wheel only had a thin centre where as the new one is about 4 times the size

[Captain Mainwaring]

They are:- http://www.ebay.com/...=item58a0606ca8

[jaydee]

usually to fit the proper rose petals you need a little spacer and longer studs, but no idea on those 6x12 rose petals replicas..

Anyhow steer clear from that cowboys garage!

[Dan]

  It's true I had just assumed you were using the correct nuts for the wheels.  You must check this.