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[sledgehammer]

how illegal is it ?

 

just sat in a car park waiting for a relative to get some shopping

 

2 RHD cars (looked like UK spec - fog light & wipers correct side) park up next to each other with PL plates (polish)

 

blokes were speaking perfect english to each other

 

(I work with polish - they speak polish to each other despite speaking english to non poles)

 

is it a way to get out of speeding & parking fines

 

I did hear the polish data base was avalible to uk police now ?

 

I'm pretty sure it is ringing ? no way should a UK car have polish plates - or am I missing something ?

Edited by sledgehammer, 01 March 2015 - 02:54 PM.

[Rocket.]

This interesting I was watching a police program on TV the other night and a motorcyclist had his bike registered in Poland to avoid speeding fines  

 

So possibly for this reason

[sledgehammer]

that makes sense - so they could have done it legally ?

[Rocket.]

that makes sense - so they could have done it legally ?

 

Can't remember what they said about the legality of it

[Tamworthbay]

When I lived in The Netherlands (admittedly is was twenty years ago) I drove my car over and that was fine for a year as long as it was insured. It didn't even need an MOT or tax which I thought was a bit weird. If you had it over there for more than a year then you were supposed to get it registered locally. But how would they know how long you had had it? My guess is that it's a grey area that could be exploited by some people.

[Ethel]

It will have to be registered and renewed somewhere, or transferred to another country. You'd also need valid insurance to register it.

 

Perhaps Polish road tax is cheaper, but they'd still need to go get a Polish MoT and have a Polish address to register it. Or they could just be running a car export business.

[sledgehammer]

it was the rhd bit & they were speaking english , that made me notice

 

wouldn't be hard to get some one in poland to send over plates & polish mot I suppose

 

esp if they have 9 points 

 

edit - http://www.ebay.co.u...=item257cc0bf04

 

don't even need doc's to get plates made up 

Edited by sledgehammer, 01 March 2015 - 04:08 PM.

[mab01uk]

A couple of years back one one of the weekly car magazines bought a cheap French registered Clio as an experiment to prove that parking on yellow lines and driving in bus lanes in London for several weeks resulted in no fines ever being issued.......

 

"Under current regulations, visiting non-UK cars must be registered with the DVLA once they have been in the UK for six months.

At this point, they must pay a £55 first registration fee, ensure they have paid VED, obtain an MOT if the vehicle is over three years old and in some instances pay VAT.

However, despite the UK Border Force gathering details of every non-UK vehicle entering and leaving the country, this information is not currently used by the DVLA for licensing purposes, which means the Government is missing out on valuable tax revenue.

The RAC is now calling on the Government to urgently create a database of non-UK-registered cars as they enter and leave the UK.

 It adds the DVLA has no idea when non-UK-registered vehicles have stayed in the country longer than six months.

This means many over three years old may not have a valid MOT and therefore contravene insurance rules, compromising the safety of all road users.

The motoring organsation says the figure could be much higher, especially considering that some 2.5million cars alone use the Eurotunnel every year, meaning the £3million figure could be undercooked.

Pete Williams says the dodge is likely to anger millions of honest British motorists who play by the rules and pay their way to use the roads.

He adds: ‘We are effectively relying on the good citizenship of individuals to register their foreign vehicles themselves once they have been here for six months, but there is little encouragement to do so – especially when you consider that driving a car with foreign plates can make it likely you will evade automatically-generated fines for offences like speeding or driving in a bus lane."

http://www.thisismon...ing-3m-tax.html

 

[ANON]

if you're that concerned about it phone the police and ask them.

[Cooperman]

My son has his permanent home in France, but works from between 5 & 8 months per annum in the UK. His Audi is UK registered using my home as the keeper's address. That keeps it legal. 

It is illegal for an EU registered car to be driven in the UK by a permanent UK resident, The only exception is for a hire car hired in the EU outside the UK and brought to the UL by a resident as part of the use of the hire car. The are also exceptions for students.

A non-EU registered car can be brought into the UK by a non-EU resident for up to 6 months and may be driven by named UK resident drivers so long as the owner is in the EU at the time. HMRC Form 308 is the applicable authorisation, although DVLA documents don't agree with this legislation (typical!).

It is a bit of a problem for EU residents as the EU is supposed to prevent barriers to trade and free movement of goods and labour, but this legislation in respect of UK residents not ever driving EU but not UK registered cars in the UK goes against this and is, therefore, widely ignored. I doubt the Old Bill understand the variations of this legislation anyway.

[Carlos W]

I'm absolutely sure this goes on. Could be a good way of ringing cars.

A few chassis checks would give interesting results.

[jaydee]

Very common across the EU where theres a big greay area on the regulations, basically allowing people to register cars in countries (usually parents country) where they pay a lot less for road tax and insurance

[Ethel]

Cheaper tax 'n insurance makes the luxury and performance brands, that depreciate so rapidly over here, more appealing.

 

Germany would be a good source for pre-owned LHD Mercs, Audis & Beamers; our cheap rusting right hookers could provide cheap spares.