Jump to content


Photo

Gearbox Diff Cap Gaskets Important

engine

  • Please log in to reply
2 replies to this topic

#1 Moke Spider

Moke Spider

    Crazy About Mini's

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,362 posts
  • Location: NSW

Posted 13 July 2015 - 08:42 AM

Something that came up a few times for me over the weekend was the subject of Gaskets fitted to the Diff Caps on the approx post 1983 on Gearboxes, these have the DAM 5626 Casting No. though it may also apply to the earlier ones, best always check to be sure.

 

Something that I found is missing from ALL Mini Workshop Manuals, Factory ones and the Haynes ones is a 'special note' regarding the fitting of the Gaskets. According to Factory Info on the Metro, some of these Cases used a Gasket and some were Gasket-less, they only used RTV Silicon.

 

I have been checking every Gearbox that I've done since the late 80's and I have yet to find a DAM5626 that does use gaskets, though I have stripped a few that had been previously over-hauled and gaskets were fitted, when they should not have been. This knowledge it would seem is not at all widely known.

 

While the extract I've posted below only says (effectively) if there wasn't gaskets in there when you stripped it, then don't fit them on assembly. Not helpful if it's been overhauled previously by someone who wasn't aware otherwise.

 

The method I use for determining if they need a Gasket or not is to clean everything up and assemble the Cap on the Case (without the Diff or Gaskets) and then measure the Tunnels for roundness. The Gaskets are only 0.007" thick, but the fitting tolerance of the Gear Sets in our Final Drive is -0.000", +0.003", it can lead to stripping of the teeth from one (or both) gears and / or wearing through the hardening on the Gear Teeth. It will also damage the Gearbox Cases as the Bearings will chatter. It can also be a source of Oil leaks.

 

Guessworks also has a Video on the subject here http://www.guess-wor...build/final.htm

 

Here's the Page, from the Factory Metro Workshop Manual, I've put a Red Box around the relevant bits;-

 

Austin%20Rover%20Metro%20Diff%20CapWM_zp

 

I trust this will be of help to some of you guys.


Edited by KernowCooper, 14 July 2015 - 09:43 PM.


#2 ACDodd

ACDodd

    Camshaft & Stage Two Head

  • Mini Docs
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,853 posts

Posted 26 July 2015 - 10:37 PM

I found my first 5626 case on 2 months ago!! Thats after 23 years of building them. So in most cases they do not use gaskets. A few do. I check everyone.

 

AC
 



#3 MRA

MRA

    Previously known as 'mra-minis.co.uk'.

  • Traders
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,607 posts
  • Location: Due to move again....

Posted 18 February 2016 - 12:24 AM

My drawings of the 5626 casing show very tight tolerances typically 0.0002" (2 tenths) or 5 microns (0.005mm) I am pretty sure the older cases are no where near as tight as this, anyone stripping them will know this to be the case (no pun intended) as the older cases seem to be a slacker fit, also machined surfaces may be finer for the 5626, it does coincide with updated manufacturing techniques and machinery...

 

In the UK we call the "tunnels" bores, and again these are very tight for the year and not typical to other parts on the Mini... ie cylinder heads where the valve guides can be off the centreline by +/- 0.5mm

 

Modified my micron measurements above as I was a factor of 10 out ;-(


Edited by MRA, 07 March 2016 - 02:10 AM.






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: engine

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Mini Spares