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[mini93]

Not a chance.

 

One of the guys at work were speaking about emissions and VW thing popped up, 6.billion is a drop in the ocean for V.A.G.

 

For some lesser companies they would well and truely go down the pan!

[sledgehammer]

Not a chance.

 

One of the guys at work were speaking about emissions and VW thing popped up, 6.billion is a drop in the ocean for V.A.G.

 

For some lesser companies they would well and truely go down the pan!

 

They have just sold their share in suzuki 3.8 billion

 

6 billion could still kill them if Europe finds them cheating on emission's & adds to the bill

 

I bet they are sharpening their knifes as I type

[Spider]

VW go down the pan, Germany's economy goes down the pan, the Euro goes down the pan.  Discuss. 

 

Mate, I don't think you have been paying proper attention.

 

Audi and Porsche will keep VW afloat.

[sledgehammer]

looks like it's world wide

 

http://www.theguardi...ts-live-updates

 

so VW is definitely looking shaky 

 

still wondering if other brands are involved ? - can't tell me VAG are the only ones doing this

 

 

 

It's amazing that no-one spotted the Volkswagen emissions issue earlier...

 

But typically for a German car ...

 

there were no indications.

Edited by sledgehammer, 24 September 2015 - 10:20 AM.

[nicklouse]

and Europe spec cars!

http://www.thelocal....ation-in-europe

[nicklouse]

some history of failing the US tests.

http://www.autonews....-defeat-devices

[xrocketengineer]

 

VW go down the pan, Germany's economy goes down the pan, the Euro goes down the pan.  Discuss. 

 

Mate, I don't think you have been paying proper attention.

 

Audi and Porsche will keep VW afloat.

 

 

I think that will come true in the form of VW declaring bankruptcy to reduce liabilities and Audi - Porsche buying the company for a song and renaming it something else to remove the infamous Hitler and Diesel fiasco associations and come out smelling like rose at the other end.

[R1minimagic]

Audi and Porsche execs have also been sacked so don't bank on it!

[sonikk4]

How long before Ford and GM are sussed out??  Then there is the cheese eating surrender monkeys as well. This wont stop at VAG.

[Anthony30]

Audi and Porsche execs have also been sacked so don't bank on it!

LOL.  

[Anthony30]

 

This might have repercussions on your side of the pond too:

 

http://www.theregist...ons_test_cheat/

 

So they inject wee-wee into the exhaust to negate NOx?!  That's a new one!  I read about this today, naughty VW!

 

Trucks have been using it for years to heavily reduce the tax.  As r1minimagic said, It's turning the 'device' off that's causing all the moaning. I don't see what the big deal is to be honest.    It's only avoiding tax, which a lot of companies do, and that's the real problem. All comes down to a money issue, nothing to do with saving the planet.

[CityEPete]

How long before Ford and GM are sussed out??  Then there is the cheese eating surrender monkeys as well. This wont stop at VAG.

Exactly, if the psa engine turns out to bend any rules it will implicate Ford, Volvo, Peugeot, Citroen and Bmw (mini) in one hit add that to VW, audi, skoda and seat we already know about and who's left, vauxhall and fiat group?

[sonikk4]

So how about a nice steam powered car. One bag of coal per mile!!!

[Jordie]

 

 

This might have repercussions on your side of the pond too:

 

http://www.theregist...ons_test_cheat/

 

So they inject wee-wee into the exhaust to negate NOx?!  That's a new one!  I read about this today, naughty VW!

 

Trucks have been using it for years to heavily reduce the tax.  As r1minimagic said, It's turning the 'device' off that's causing all the moaning. I don't see what the big deal is to be honest.    It's only avoiding tax, which a lot of companies do, and that's the real problem. All comes down to a money issue, nothing to do with saving the planet.

 

 

Countries around the globe have signed up to reduce pollution levels, the introduction of the testing limits (such as euro 3, 4, 5, 6) is to reduce the pollution from vehicles. The vehicles have to meet the regulations. VAG are only meeting the US standards by programming the ecu during tests and afterwards it returns to normal, giving higher levels of pollution. The impact is countries failing to meet pollution reduction. Its not about avoiding tax, its about VAG selling and pushing diesel cars into the US. The US dont buy diesel cars historically, but VAG have been pushing diesel cars hard into the US.

 

UK cars......VAG haven't reduced the pollution during tests to save you road tax, they've done it to sell cars again and pass stricter tests on new vehicles.

 

And yes AdBlue and other addative systems have been used on trucks for many years. Trucks typically use alot more of the fluid than cars, but some cars do use this type of system also.

[sledgehammer]