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#1 mini13

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:50 AM

Hi Folks,

 

I am looking at doing a head conversion with the Fiat Brava/Punto/500 1.2 16v head, and as such it may be worth me getting a few conversion kits machined up if anyone is interested?

 

 

first off is this a conversion that anyone would be interested in?

 

2nd off, its looking like there are some advantages to this conversion, eg, it should be an unmodified head, or very nearly, rather than the K11 where you chop the end of the head off and get it welded up. i think the most were looking at for the fiat head is tapping and plugging 2 oil drains, and drilling and tapping an oil feed.

the other main advantage... cost, I picked up a whole 16v engine for 75quid.... this verses the circa 300 for the K head.

again on the cost front, as the engine is already belt drive the conversion kit will be cheaper, where your looking at 600 quid for the K belt drive kit, it should be doable for around half that even for a small run.

 

 

there are some disavantages, ultimatly the head will not make the same power as the K as it dosent have as hot cams, but is looks to be a pretty eficient design.

 

Thoughts please??

 



#2 Carlos W

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 10:59 AM

How well do the chambers line up with the bores?



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:03 AM

Put me down for one.

#4 mini13

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:22 AM

it likes up pretty well bore wise, these arnt my pics, but its a 1275 gasket laid on the fiat head.

 

 

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#5 Carlos W

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:24 AM

Superb.

 

It's spot on



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:28 AM

Sold! lol

I'm very intrested, been looking in other head conversions too ( also fiat, the AR2000 engine)

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:31 AM

How much are we talking all in?

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Posted 30 November 2015 - 11:33 AM

oh I should point out that this kit should also work with the 8v fiat head as used in the cinq/punto 75 ect.

 

Richie, I need to point out that this is aimed at the DIY market, so is a kit of bits to allow the conversion, you would need to sort out manifolds, wiring, block/piston mods ect as per the K1100 conversion,

 

but, i would say we are looking at in the order of 300 quid to get a kit of parts to adapt the fiat head to the mini block. for the K1100 I think your looking at around 1200 to get to the same point, plus the K1100 heads are more money to start with.


Edited by mini13, 30 November 2015 - 11:37 AM.


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Posted 30 November 2015 - 01:41 PM

What is head stud alignment like? If it could be made possible with only head mods and not block/piston then you'd be onto a winner.



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Posted 30 November 2015 - 01:57 PM

stud alignment is much the same as the K1100, the trouble with these conversions is almost every thing has 10 studs, unlike the a serieses odd 4 &5 arangement, basically there is no chance of finding anything that is a drop on replacement.



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Posted 12 December 2015 - 05:42 PM

I might be interested depending on cost and seeing all the parts required.
What about oil and water ways?

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Posted 10 May 2016 - 10:07 PM

Did anything come of this?

Are there any guides to a finished one on the web?

#13 mini13

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Posted 11 May 2016 - 07:22 AM

Not yet, Ive got a head and largly drawn up the conversion parts, but buying a house has put it on hold for the moment.

 

this is the most comprehensive info on it and the only runner so far....

 

http://www.turbomini...id=222255&fr=50



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 02:14 AM

That engine looks really tall, will it fit under a Mini's bonnet?



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Posted 14 May 2016 - 08:21 PM

looks like a great idea!!!!

love to see one going.

nice and simple with just one cam






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