Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

New Garage Doors!


  • Please log in to reply
19 replies to this topic

#1 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:13 PM

Pictures speak a thousand words...

E11F43BC-D605-4F4C-8185-92F3E0C17414_zps

AE19B4F0-C148-4A20-B441-958EAFB7B9BA_zps

So this is my starting point :/

One expensive trip to Wickes and a slow drive home got me all the wood I need for a new pair of barn doors.

8B3311C1-EA5C-43C6-864B-49C8321CAC0E_zps

From that I cut out my basic framework with diagonals and clamped it up with a pair of sash clamps

CE235FA2-F92B-4F6E-A289-5639547B55F7_zps

#2 Richie83

Richie83

    One Carb Or Two?

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,494 posts
  • Location: Somerset

Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:14 PM

Great effort so far. What are you cladding it in?

#3 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:36 PM

Really I should have done lap joints but I didn't think about that when I cut the frame :( oh well
I then made a pocket drill jig so I can screw all the parts together, if you don't know what a pocket hole is I've tried to explain it in pictures how I made it but basically it's so you don't have to use 5" screws!

Drill a hole through a block of wood first
55F8ABA0-E0D0-48DC-92B8-9D8E6BA70522_zps

D09212DE-82E3-4D80-89BA-D09DE94F0FE0_zps

2FD030E3-0111-4521-932E-D92E86291388_zps

639CFE24-A0F9-457A-B0CF-697F75BB4BFE_zps

41B5E03C-3245-4EC6-9CFF-4E4E25E921C0_zps

And if you've cut it right, your screw comes out in the centre of the wood!
You can buy jigs that do this but I'm cheap! Haha

Then I went round the frame and drilled my pocket holes ready to screw it all together

12C3BD12-15DD-42D8-AADF-36588F08EE69_zps

#4 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 04:39 PM

Great effort so far. What are you cladding it in?


Thanks Richie, I've got tongue and groove to cover the outside, hopefully it should look good with some varnish! Not keen on paint.

#5 Ethel

Ethel

    ..is NOT a girl!

  • TMF Team
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,406 posts
  • Local Club: none

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:03 PM

You could make the bottom horizontals a few inches off the floor so they're less likely to rot.



#6 slidehammer

slidehammer

    One Carb Or Two?

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,081 posts
  • Location: Surrey
  • Local Club: LSMOC

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:08 PM

Good work, if you had paid someone to do it I doubt they would have jointed it just screwed it similar to you. Will be plenty strong enough with the cladding on. Good luck with them.



#7 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:12 PM

You could make the bottom horizontals a few inches off the floor so they're less likely to rot.


That's not a bad idea actually, I can't remember how much of a gap I left but I'm replacing the framework in the aperture so might make the top taller

#8 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:17 PM

Good work, if you had paid someone to do it I doubt they would have jointed it just screwed it similar to you. Will be plenty strong enough with the cladding on. Good luck with them.


Thanks, I'm hoping the tongue and groove will strengthen it up plenty, I will be gluing the frame as well as screwing it so should be good strong joints

#9 venkman

venkman

    Speeding Along Now

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 443 posts
  • Location: Glusburn

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:39 PM

Must be garage door rebuild season!! Just made two myself similar frame but I used big coach screws and glue,then clad it with a sheet of 12mm marine ply and sprayed black.

A small note but you may be aware, I had to use heavier duty hinges in the end as it weighed quite a bit more than before!!

#10 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:56 PM

15 minutes back in the cold garage and we have one glued and screwed frame :) happy it seemed to go quite well, considering I haven't really done anything this big before I'm pleased.

22FEE99A-BE9B-4B48-A7E0-2D7E10764562_zps

#11 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 25 November 2016 - 05:59 PM

Must be garage door rebuild season!! Just made two myself similar frame but I used big coach screws and glue,then clad it with a sheet of 12mm marine ply and sprayed black.

A small note but you may be aware, I had to use heavier duty hinges in the end as it weighed quite a bit more than before!!


Must be!
I started it in the summer but had other priorities that got in the way like getting married :)

I think I will re-use the hinges there as I know they are strong enough to hold the big doors!

#12 slidehammer

slidehammer

    One Carb Or Two?

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,081 posts
  • Location: Surrey
  • Local Club: LSMOC

Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:38 AM

 

Good work, if you had paid someone to do it I doubt they would have jointed it just screwed it similar to you. Will be plenty strong enough with the cladding on. Good luck with them.


Thanks, I'm hoping the tongue and groove will strengthen it up plenty, I will be gluing the frame as well as screwing it so should be good strong joints

 

That will as strong if not stronger than any wooden doors you could buy. Plus you have the advantage of getting any preserver on as you build them up. Get plenty on the bottom before you hang them.



#13 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 26 November 2016 - 10:43 AM

So I left that frame overnight for the glue to dry properly then got in the garage this morning and put the heater on!
Brrr November is cold!

The wood is treated but I don't really trust that so out came the yacht varnish to get a good waterproof coat betweenthe frame and the t&g.

784D1B87-852B-4288-B0B8-2580B75FBF31_zps

Now onto the next door, the same as the first but with the diagonals flipped.
The diagonals carry the load of the door in compression toward the hinge side and this prevents 'racking' or sagging.

#14 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 26 November 2016 - 06:14 PM

Next I had to work out how much overhang I would have so I can cut the t&g
BAA44E22-045A-4D9D-8EE8-6000E93ED2CF_zps

6BF750F5-B1A5-4D8C-A43B-443AAD3B07B0_zps

9B27C65B-A6F1-4A2D-A28B-CBAD37B40F20_zps

7E43D32D-548E-4806-A8BE-CFB6F70CC80E_zps

So that's 40mm too wide (20mm each side off the end slats)
And 48mm off the length.

Out comes the chop saw
D47498B2-7A26-4D5D-9FB1-F474811EDC48_zps

And once you get too confident you get mistakes like this
0290C34E-020F-4283-9810-D081DDBDE2CD_zps

235F2637-C37C-4800-BDD6-26197CCBDAD5_zps

Hopefully I can hide it with some trim as I had the exact number of boards!

#15 mini_matt_106

mini_matt_106

    Super Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 591 posts
  • Location: Andover

Posted 26 November 2016 - 06:17 PM

I decided the easiest way to trim the edges would be a router or plane at the end so set my 20mm offset and screwed on the first board then a couple more.
9E8C7F18-14AD-4CB1-966B-71F245500028_zps

And carried on until I had this!
83D2339F-48C8-4627-A9EC-2D79AC2AD1AA_zps

1 down, 1 to go!




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users