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#16 jamesmpi

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 06:37 PM

Surely the driver of the Punto should be fined too. Parked in same spot as you

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Posted 15 January 2017 - 08:22 PM

Surely the driver of the Punto should be fined too. Parked in same spot as you

 

You could say the same with the 2 polo's  parked on the grass verge and blocking the footpath.



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 01:28 PM

I got away with it! :) 



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 01:32 PM

I got away with it! :) 

I'm impressed, on what grounds?



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Posted 01 February 2017 - 04:47 PM

I got away with it! :)


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#21 Mini Manannán

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:15 PM

Give us the meat Craig! :-)



#22 Mini Manannán

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:19 PM

Why do they call it a PCN?  I had to go searching to find out what PCN stands for, they call it a parking fine here :-)



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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:53 PM

Penalty charge notice.

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 07:54 PM

There is no such thing as a 'fine' unless the matter has been to a court of law and a Magistrate, Recorder, Master or Judge has determined that a fine shall be imposed. To call any other form of penalty a 'fine' is not legal and may be construed as 'demanding money with menaces'. There are 'Conditional Offers of Fixed Penalty' (CoFP) which can be in the form of a 'ticket, but everyone is entitled to ignore them and opt for a trial in a court-of-law.

 

For an organisation to describe such a CoFP as a 'fine' is not legal. My son had one for a parking offence in his UK registered car after he had moved to France to live. They kept writing to my address as his car was registered here and I called up to tell them he was no longer living in the UK. The parking company guy told me that the 'fine' must be paid. I straightened him out and told him that I had recorded the call (not true) and that by calling it a 'fine' when, legally, it wasn't, he was demanding money with menaces, especially when he said he would 'sent the bailiffs round to my house'. He said that I must prove that my son didn't live here. I told him I didn't have to do anything at all and that if his 'debt collectors' came around I would robustly send them away. I also told him that I would be writing to his company to tell them that any further correspondence requiring a reply would be charged at £50 per letter and that any further letters received at my address would be taken as their acceptance of that condition and would constitute a contract to pay me. I could have replied in just two words, the second of which would have been 'off', but I'm too polite  ;D .

 

It all just went away - surprise, surprise  :D .


Edited by Cooperman, 07 February 2017 - 07:56 PM.


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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:17 PM

Good ol' European Convention of Human Rights - no punishment without trial.😁

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Posted 07 February 2017 - 08:20 PM

Actually it goes back to the 1689 Bill of Rights which specifies that 'there shall be no fine or forfeiture without a trial'.

 

Good old British Justice - sod those Europeans  ;D .



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 11:52 AM

I told them that as somebody who works in the community every day with wheelchair users, there was absolutely no way I was causing an obstruction to the drop kerb, nor was I blocking the driveway! I said that if I had the pay the PCN in one go then I'd be under unreasonable financial strain to pay my rent so we would have to arrange a payment of £5 a month if they were going to go ahead and pursue the charge as that's all I can spare  :shifty:  >_<



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Posted 10 February 2017 - 01:13 PM

Actually it goes back to the 1689 Bill of Rights which specifies that 'there shall be no fine or forfeiture without a trial'.

 

Good old British Justice - sod those Europeans  ;D .

 

One of those Europeans being King Billy? It's actually his act of succession, bloody foreigners coming over here and taking our (king's) jobs.

 

Joking aside, for all we can be rightly proud of that, Magna Carta, The Chartists etc. for their world wide influence; I do worry a bit about how we will keep our government in check without an external, and so properly independent, higher authority.

 

Before the EU* we had internment, and without it you'd have Theresa May recording your browser history and email address book.

 

*Yes, it's a different court, but the EU gave it clout, by making it a condition of membership.



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Posted 24 March 2017 - 09:50 PM

Definitely appeal it. Even if it gets declined you still only have to pay the reduced fee if you appeal it within the reduced fee period. So nothing to lose really




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