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#1 Chesty2925

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 07:47 PM

I have a quick shift gear box in my mini. Recently it's been hard to get it in first gear. Any ideas?

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 08:54 PM

So you have a travel reducer gear stick on your standard box.

Is this a new fitting? If yes remove it and fit the old one.

If you have had it for a while you could well have worn out the syncros due to the reduced travel and the possibility moving the gear syncros faster than they should be moved.

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:01 PM

Quick shifts are the quickest way to break a gearbox

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 09:02 PM

Quick shifts are the quickest way to break a gearbox

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Posted 29 March 2017 - 10:58 PM

They are not known as "Quick-Graunch" for nothing! 



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:00 AM

I run them and love them.

 

While they can shift faster and happy to do so, I just like them because the travel of the stick is more 'civilised'.  One can wear out or break a box just as easy with a stock shifter ;D

 

Going back to the OP, if the clutch is working OK, then it's possible the gearbox is getting tired, but I wouldn't be too fast to blame the shifter for this.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:50 AM

I run them and love them.

 

While they can shift faster and happy to do so, I just like them because the travel of the stick is more 'civilised'.  One can wear out or break a box just as easy with a stock shifter ;D

 

Going back to the OP, if the clutch is working OK, then it's possible the gearbox is getting tired, but I wouldn't be too fast to blame the shifter for this.

having sat in a Moke for the first time a few years ago I know why the travel reducing shifters are liked in Mokes.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:22 PM

 

having sat in a Moke for the first time a few years ago I know why the travel reducing shifters are liked in Mokes.

 

 

Yes, I do have them in the Mokes, but, I also have them in the Minis too. I've been running these for probably about 8 years now.



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:25 PM

having sat in a Moke for the first time a few years ago I know why the travel reducing shifters are liked in Mokes.

 
Yes, I do have them in the Mokes, but, I also have them in the Minis too. I've been running these for probably about 8 years now.

Only 8 years! I binned mine 20 years ago. Or was that 21 years ago.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 08:47 PM


Only 8 years! I binned mine 20 years ago. Or was that 21 years ago.

 

 

I put it off for a while due to the 'bad press' they'd received, but I feel the bad press is in no way at all justified. I have zero complaints about them and it often makes me wonder why the factory didn't adopt similar geometry for them in production.

 

Honestly, no matter how fast I have shifted with them, I have never been able to beat the Syncho. but then again, I do do full overhauls on the Gearboxes when I do them up. I've also found that they have had no effect on the life of the gearboxes either. As I say, zero complaints. Well, OK, one that they don't make one for a Moke! I have to bend the Mini one.

 

So, who's shifter did you have and why did you ditch it?



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Posted 30 March 2017 - 09:43 PM

KAD, (there was nothing else available) it cost an engine rebuild.

The 1-3 and 2-4 gates are just too close.

Oh full blown crash box. On the rod type.

Mine old Skool remote. Just again gates too close. But again I do run a remote lock out lever.

Strange as when I ran the box in the back of the GTM with a self made shifter I had no issues at all but the shift was shorter but not narrower cut down stick.

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Posted 30 March 2017 - 10:53 PM

I've been using the poor man's version from Mini Spares. I haven't tried the KAD version.

 

I'll say that at first, I did find the Gates quite close, but it was really only a case of what I was previously used to. By the time I'd driven down the road with it that first time, I was used to it and by the time I'd driven back, loved it.

 

I guess with your own shifter in the GTM, you could 'adjust' it to what you like - just more work!  I would think it a bit of a tricky item in the GTM since the shifter rod on the Gearbox would be pointing the wrong way.



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Posted 31 March 2017 - 05:11 PM

It was already in the Mini when I got it so I haven't got the old box.
I don't have any issues in any of the other gears and to be honest I don't mind the gears closer. So I don't really want to change the box.

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Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:40 PM

What would be the rough cost of getting it fixed?




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