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[1314cc]

Definitely not timken, beginning to wish that's what I bought

[cian]

Yeah that's your problem! Rubbish bearings!

[1314cc]

Yeah that's your problem! Rubbish bearings!

Hi Cian, I bought some delphi balljoints from you recently after struggling to set the crap ones from minimine. Have you used qh bearings before? Thought they were an ok ish brand. Looks like I'll be ordering some timken!

[dyshipfakta]

I fitted a set of QH bearings a couple of months back. Tightened up fine no play and nothing to report.

[cian]

Yeah that's your problem! Rubbish bearings!

Hi Cian, I bought some delphi balljoints from you recently after struggling to set the crap ones from minimine. Have you used qh bearings before? Thought they were an ok ish brand. Looks like I'll be ordering some timken!

I recently got an old stock of qh front wheel bearings the bearings themselves where timken but that stock has sold, im assuming that modern day qh are probably just using the same unbranded bearings everyone else is peddling, was there any brand markings on them? I will be getting another stock of front timkens in the next few days they will be £40 currently I have lots of interest but I can certainly hold one over for you, I have lots of rear timkens too

Edited by cian, 18 April 2017 - 07:54 AM.

[1314cc]

Hi Cian, better hold 2 sets please if poss. £40 is with new seals?

[tiger99]

Well, there is a good opportunity for people to get genuine bearings!

As to the original problem, the bearings were most likely Timkens, properly selected and paired, which may suggest that the hub casting is worn, most likely by previous outer rings having rotated. The next step towards proving what is the exact problem would be to accurately measure the thickness of the rib in the hub which spaces the two bearings apart. Not the easiest thing to measure because of where it is, and it needs some kind of micrometer, not just a vernier.

There is also the possibility that the apparently genuine bearings are in fact counterfeit, as the counterfeiters are tending to replicate the proper packaging nowadays. Sometimes silly spelling mistakes give them away. Last time I looked the Timken web site and those of other mainstream bearing manufacturers carried warnings about the problem.

It is getting ever more difficult to ensure that anything you buy is the genuine article these days. It is mostly beyond the resources of Trading Standards, although they do their best and quite often seize loads of dangerous electrical goods and such like.

Maybe after Brexit there will be more UK manufacturing, which will help.

[1314cc]

Think I'll disassemble and check everything before totally giving up on these bearings , I'm learning many mini lessons as I go though!

[tiger99]

Good luck! Please keep us informed of your findings as it helps others.

[1314cc]

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Good luck! Please keep us informed of your findings as it helps others.[/quote

Another thing that slipped my mind was when I removed both hubs the inner seals seemed to be fitted backwards?? So the flat edge was flush with bearing. I've never had any bearing work done and have owned the car for most if it's 28 years! Is this correct or not? ]

[cian]

That doesn't sound right at all! And yes bearings come with seals

[1314cc]

Guessed it wasn't right but they have been fitted that way for 20 years +. Again having looked online I've stumbled across some owners fitting them that way.

[Spider]

Here's a cross section drawing that may help NOTE that the seals do not go all the way down to the bearings

 

 

At various times in production, they did fit spacers for the seals, seems to have been during the late 70's and early 80's.

Edited by Moke Spider, 19 April 2017 - 09:20 PM.

[1314cc]

Yeah I have that split spacer fitted on the inner side

[1314cc]

Right, took the hub off to reveal some pitting on cv. It's not grooved at all I'm guessing wants replacing? Could this be where the play is?

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