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Best Answer Rorf , 17 September 2017 - 07:17 PM

I was told years ago by a mini expert to let it breath to atmosphere and all it did was cause oil leaks and a filthy oily engine compartment. Get that oil breather hose connected to that carb pipe and enjoy a trouble free and clean running engine.

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#1 BaronVonchesto

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:17 PM

Here's a picture of my engine bay. My car has a single HS4 carb and it looks like there is a K&N filter (green circle) attached to what I think is the breather. I'd like to minimise the pollution my car causes and keep my engine bay clean. Whats the correct way to connect the crankcase to the carb?

 

Do I just remove the filter and connect a hose from the breather to the attachement on the carb (yellow circle)? My carb has an attachment with a rubber hose and a bolt on the end which I assume is for recirculating the crankcase gases.

 

I've heard theres a one way valve (PCV) valve used to ensure that the gases from the crankcase always flow into the carb at the right rate. Is there such a thing? I tried searching for "PCV valve" on minispares but came up with nothing.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:39 PM

That is indeed the breather, you should just connect the crankcase breather to that connection with a hose, however I just vent both to atmosphere to reduce the oil fumes in the cabin

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 04:45 PM

That is indeed the breather, you should just connect the crankcase breather to that connection with a hose, however I just vent both to atmosphere to reduce the oil fumes in the cabin

Why would you get oil fumes in the cabin with a closed loop? One would think the oil comes from venting to the atmosphere. Plus its more polluting!



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 05:48 PM

Well, I try to clearify how it should work.

The piston rings can't prevent that a bit of the gases in the burning chamber 'blow by' the walls of the cilinders down to the crankcase.

The PVC (positive crankcase ventilation) system is ment to suck those gases from the crankcase into the inlet manifold to get them into the cilinders again and 'out' via the exhaust.

There for there goes a rubber tube from the 'oil restrainer' on the back of the engine to the foot of the carburettor where you find a little copper tube where that rubber hose hat to be connected to. In the picture we see that taht tube ends this moment in a little (K&N) filter.

People who race Mini's use such filters on this tube to get rid of the crankcase fumes rather than bringing it back into the burning chambers. They want to get in as much fresh mixture as possible to gain the last particles of power that can be got. Don't they. What the hack; pollution!

Some cars have a oil restainer on the lid of the clutch as well.

The PCV 'valve' where you are talking about, you will find one on sverela cars that don't have a copper tube on the foot of the carburettor. In stead you find the 'valve' on the inlet manifold. Each time the excellerator pedal is not pressed down, the vacuum in the inlet manifold rises to the top that can be reached and the crankcase is sucked empty of (half)burned gases and fresh air is sucked in via the ventilated cap on top of the valve rocker cap.

You don't have such a PCV valve on a Mini (as far as I know).

I see a black rubber tube coming from doen where normally the dipstick sits in the engine carter. Don't understand where it comes from and where it goes.

Is this something a 'speciality' some one 'found out' to augment the power the engine in this car is meant to produce?



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 06:00 PM

Twin carb setups had that pcv valve. Wich isnt a good solution (in my opinion) as it sucks the crankcase empty at idle ,when there is low blowby and doesnt empty the crankcase at full throttle, when its actualy needed.
The best system (to me) is An evacusump. A system where the crankcase gasses het sucked out by the venturi created by the exhaust.
But for a road car I'd Just plumb it back in the carb.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 07:17 PM   Best Answer

I was told years ago by a mini expert to let it breath to atmosphere and all it did was cause oil leaks and a filthy oily engine compartment. Get that oil breather hose connected to that carb pipe and enjoy a trouble free and clean running engine.



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 12:54 PM

I see a black rubber tube coming from doen where normally the dipstick sits in the engine carter. Don't understand where it comes from and where it goes.

Is this something a 'speciality' some one 'found out' to augment the power the engine in this car is meant to produce?

The dipstick is actually hidden under the black tube in my picture. Thats actually for the air conditioning. If you look carefully at the bottom you will see a metal L shaped tube. That connectos to the compressor that sits below my alternator. The other end of the tube goes to to the heat exchanger in the car.

 

It makes my engine bay very crowded and reduces the power output of my car engine, but in tropical Malaysia, its impossible to drive a car without AC. Its just too hot, and you would die from heatstroke if the windows are'nt wound down.



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Posted 18 September 2017 - 12:55 PM

I was told years ago by a mini expert to let it breath to atmosphere and all it did was cause oil leaks and a filthy oily engine compartment. Get that oil breather hose connected to that carb pipe and enjoy a trouble free and clean running engine.

Your mini "expert" obviously didnt care about pollution or wearing the seals of your engine.



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 04:35 AM

One more question, whats the right diameter and material of the hose to connect the crankcase breather to the carb?



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:50 AM

One more question, whats the right diameter and material of the hose to connect the crankcase breather to the carb?

there is not as there are different diameters. which makes it fun. breather is about 1/2" IIRC



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 10:51 AM

I was told years ago by a mini expert to let it breath to atmosphere and all it did was cause oil leaks and a filthy oily engine compartment. Get that oil breather hose connected to that carb pipe and enjoy a trouble free and clean running engine.

sorry but your engine had issues before then. connected or not it would have leaked.



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:03 AM

 

One more question, whats the right diameter and material of the hose to connect the crankcase breather to the carb?

there is not as there are different diameters. which makes it fun. breather is about 1/2" IIRC

 

indeed! and is there any specific material the hose should be made of? I imagine the crankcase fumes are rather hot!



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Posted 24 September 2017 - 12:08 PM

info here http://www.minispare...ver.aspx?1~2~25







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