Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Rivets Or Screws?


  • Please log in to reply
19 replies to this topic

#1 Laurie

Laurie

    Mini Mad

  • Noobies
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 298 posts
  • Location: Gloucestershire
  • Local Club: GMOC

Posted 21 September 2017 - 12:37 PM

I get to finally put the brightwork on my bonnet tomorrow and at the time had trouble locating the screws for the chrome bonnet trim (Minispares sell them, I know now!).

So select these and wait for postage, or rivet it on?

Im a fan of rivets as they dont tend to loosen themselves over time and theyre not easy to remove without the aid of a drill.

#2 cal844

cal844

    Crazy About Mini's

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,488 posts
  • Location: Ballingry, Fife
  • Local Club: TFMOC

Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:25 PM

Personally I'd screw them on, 4 3mm holes are all you need

#3 pete l

pete l

    One Carb Or Two?

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,360 posts
  • Location: East of France

Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:21 PM

But screws rip off the paint and then rust starts, rivets don't do as much damage



#4 cal844

cal844

    Crazy About Mini's

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 9,488 posts
  • Location: Ballingry, Fife
  • Local Club: TFMOC

Posted 21 September 2017 - 03:21 PM

But screws rip off the paint and then rust starts, rivets don't do as much damage


Weird one that! On all my minis the screws are greased when we screw the arches on, haven't had an issue in 6 years 😃

#5 nicklouse

nicklouse

    Moved Into The Garage

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,945 posts
  • Location: Not Yorkshire
  • Local Club: Anonyme Miniholiker

Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:22 PM

pops.



#6 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 15,899 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:55 PM

Rivets will cause damage through dissimilar corrosion IF you don't paint the hole you have drilled first and then when you fit the rivet whether its a Tucker Pop etc a smear of sealant will give another layer of protection.



#7 MacGyver

MacGyver

    One Carb Or Two?

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,027 posts
  • Location: Fribourg

Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:12 PM

Steel Rivnuts(stainless) or welding small nuts in place...

#8 MrBounce

MrBounce

    Up Into Fourth

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,563 posts
  • Location: The Manroom in Ipswich

Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:01 AM

Steel Rivnuts(stainless) or welding small nuts in place...


What he said. Rivnuts rock!

#9 Laurie

Laurie

    Mini Mad

  • Noobies
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 298 posts
  • Location: Gloucestershire
  • Local Club: GMOC

Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:51 AM

What are rivnuts? :ermm:
And do I have to squash them like rivets?

Edited by Laurie, 22 September 2017 - 10:59 AM.


#10 nicklouse

nicklouse

    Moved Into The Garage

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,945 posts
  • Location: Not Yorkshire
  • Local Club: Anonyme Miniholiker

Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:59 AM

I would not use them in this instance.

 

But they are like pop rivets but are internally threaded. on a Mini they can be found holding the side mirrors on the door. (threaded inserts).



#11 Laurie

Laurie

    Mini Mad

  • Noobies
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 298 posts
  • Location: Gloucestershire
  • Local Club: GMOC

Posted 22 September 2017 - 11:00 AM

I would not use them in this instance.
 
But they are like pop rivets but are internally threaded. on a Mini they can be found holding the side mirrors on the door. (threaded inserts).


Ahh I see :D

You got in there just as I edited x

#12 MacGyver

MacGyver

    One Carb Or Two?

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,027 posts
  • Location: Fribourg

Posted 22 September 2017 - 03:23 PM

There might not be the space for them... 😑

#13 tiger99

tiger99

    Crazy About Mini's

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,584 posts
  • Location: Hemel Hempstead

Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:50 PM

But best to use them everywhere that there is space. Rivnuts are much better than putting self tappers direct into metal, or using Spire clips. Strictly NOT for structural applications of course, only trim, fittings and sundries. Prime, seal seal and paint to prevent rusting of the metal, and if in doubt, put a greased screw into the Rivnut to keep paint out. They achieve a high-quality, professional standard of job.

 

There are structural Rinvut-like devices available with stated load capability, but they and their installations are rather specialised.



#14 Alice Dooper

Alice Dooper

    Speeding Along Now

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 391 posts
  • Location: Co. Antrim
  • Local Club: Minis in Northern Ireland

Posted 23 September 2017 - 08:49 AM

Not a big fan of self tappers, even stainless steel ones, so easy to overtighten and encourage rust. Rivnuts are great but if you haven’t got a setting tool and it’s just light parts, could I suggest plastic captive nuts then a stainless self tapper. I used them on my grill and they work great, even have about a 1mm face that sits proud and is helping hold the grill just enough off the front panel to reduce rubbing on the nice fresh paint.

Though as many have already said, whatever fitting you use, you really need to properly protect the exposed metal after drilling holes with some paint and primer. Pain in the hole slowing a job down, but has to be done.

#15 Mat

Mat

    Mini Mad

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 254 posts
  • Location: West Sussex

Posted 23 September 2017 - 07:37 PM

Rivnuts are great. And a decent tool isn't expensive either- I'd like to replace every self-tapper with rivnuts if I could.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users