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#1 phillrulz

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 10:49 AM

Just been setting up my security tracker, it has the ability to switch a relay which they show turning the fuel pump off via a relay as a form of immobilization. Considering my mini has a mechanical fuel pump what is the safe way to kill me mini ? I was thinking cutting off the ignition coil supply? Would this cause damage to the car? Or issues when restarting the car in regards to excess fuel in the chamber etc.  Cheers 



#2 WillCarter

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 10:56 AM

Is this whilst it's parked somewhere? Just use a battery immobiliser 



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:02 AM

Is this whilst it's parked somewhere? Just use a battery immobiliser 

No the kit has a remote kill. I can text the tracker it will turn a relay off. Even with car in motion 



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 11:41 AM

Remove the coil lead when you park it up for any length of time.

Cutting the electrics really needs the alternator out put putting through a diode.


Making harder or look like it is going to be a pain to take is better than hidden tricks.

#5 minifreek1

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 12:27 PM

I think I know which tracker you have, Iv got 1 somewhere which I bought for a previous car but never fitted it. Iv got a Minivation tracker on my Mini now....

 

I think the only way you could use the kill function is with a relay to cut the ignition supply....

 

You could also fit 1 of those DISCARNNECT manual battery cutoffs... Iv also got 1 of those on mine which I use if its to be laid up for any length of time, like when on holiday etc....



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Posted 28 October 2017 - 12:31 PM

 

Is this whilst it's parked somewhere? Just use a battery immobiliser 

No the kit has a remote kill. I can text the tracker it will turn a relay off. Even with car in motion 

 

Sounds a great idea but with today's litigious society if you killed the engine while in motion and it caused an accident or even worse, a third party death, I think the scumbags who stole it would sue you. :ohno:



#7 Mervyn

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Posted 28 October 2017 - 02:37 PM

Use it as intended with a solenoid

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:14 AM

inline fuel cut off electric one or just put a plumbers tap inline easier cheaper or you could wire the system to trigger headlights horn too draw notice to your mini 1/4 I believe the size is 

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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:58 AM

I'm with Northernpower, immobilising your Mini while it's on the road could result in it being recovered with damage it wouldn't have otherwise have had, and some awkward questions to answer.

 

You could wire it via relays to activate the horn and hazards. 1100 Special's idea has an advantage in that it could allow the car to run enough to put the would be thieves in a more exposed position where they're more likely to do a runner than put effort in to defeating your security efforts. It'd help if you were likely to be close to hand in order to react.



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 02:30 AM

Here in the US the cops have a program called "Bait Car" where they leave a car in a hot spot for car thefts and when it gets taken it activates internal cameras, then they can kill the engine while the perps are in the car - it also locks the doors and deactivates the windows. In every case they televised, the car just rolled to a stop with the bad guys locked inside till the cops rolled up on it and took them into custody. However, I don't think they ever tried to shut it down while on the highway.......

 

Laws/rules might be different there, but I agree - set it up with a solenoid and kill the fuel supply.



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 11:00 AM

Unless you want to retain the mechanical pump because it's a period correct car I'd be inclined to replace the mechanical one with an electric one and wire the immobiliser up to it.



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 12:22 PM

Both the fuel tank and carb need ventilation to function,closing either off with a solenoid valve would stop an engine a little less abruptly. Still think hard about using it. I suppose if you were close when alerted and a good way away from dangerous roads where a stopped car would be a hazard - but then you could do similar more reliably with a simple timer relay for an interior light.



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 01:35 PM

Just put the relay in line with the power to the coil, that will cut the engine, tape all the wires up so that it looks the the original wiring loom and the theives won't see it.

 

BUT, I still think it would be better to prevent the car being started in the first place.



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 03:18 PM

I know a few people who use a cheap eBay electric pump in place of the mechanical one and have a switch on it - on a thousand in still takes about a half mile for the float bowl to run dry.

 

It's not like a sudden stop, more of a gradual running down.



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Posted 14 December 2017 - 05:51 PM

I never got around to it buy when I had megajolt I was going to use the feature mentioned above to activate the rev limiter to say 1500rpm which would make it a pain to try drive




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