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#1 Ian Bloggs

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:39 PM

Hello gents, Need a rear sub and with the high pricing i took a peek at Fleabay.

 

what would you do.. is it worth buying?

 

https://www.ebay.co....HsAAOSwIJlaAH4O

 

There are two 'pockets' of rust that have had previous welding.. I'm wondering what those bubbles in the metal are and whether they can be repaired..

 

I cannot find a dealer price below 219.00 inc.

 

 



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 12:45 PM

I would buy a new one, it’s the main structural element of the rear suspension. Unless your a skilled welder I wouldn’t bother with anything which has already been on a car for years.

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 02:45 PM

It is hard to tell from the pictures but I think that someone has had a go at adding to the seam welding where the top of the side member overlaps the main crossmember, and that is usually done on non-genuine frames where the spots have been skimped. The welding, if it is that, looks extremely poor and ineffective, but it may actually be dirt or seam sealer.

 

If I had it right in front of me I might be able to determine that it is not too bad, and just needs cleaning and painting, or preferably galvanising (which would kill the rust, for 50 years or more, otherwise it will remain in the seams), but from these photos I can only suspect that it would be a high risk purchase, best avoided. Running a Mini is NEVER CHEAP these days, and it is extremely inadvisable to skimp on safety critical parts. Sorry, but I have to recommend avoiding it.

 

A cheap new subframe will need some seam welding where I have described above, as certain unknown manufacturers (or maybe the ONLY manufacturer of non-genuine frames. Chinese or North-East England? Does anyone know?) skimp on the highly stressed spot welds to save a few pence. It may also need the strengthening gussets welded in behind the cone abutments. There are also may tales of alignment problems. It is therefore preferable to only use a genuine Heritage frame, and they are expensive. An accident caused by a subframe failure on the road is even more expensive.



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 03:15 PM

Those two pockets of rust will be quite substantial by the time you have removed them completely. Looks repairable but i would be wondering what the rest of it is like.



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 04:00 PM

2nd hand for 150 too expensive, 80 quid then might be worthwhile :D



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 05:02 PM

As above its too expensive for a secondhand frame, it does look like the rust has actually broken through on one of the seams.

 

I just looked at subframes and I am shocked at how much they cost these days, its been about 10 years since I last bought one.  I recon I would buy a non genuine one (which seem to be around £200 on ebay) and add some extra weld in the necessary places.



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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:29 PM

Thanks for the tips gents. At around £220 for non genuine as around £440 for genuine you can see why I'm looking around. As you say, they are a crucial component.

I will leave that item..it's not worth the risk but if you know of a cheaper option or have one for sale then please let me know.

by the way which areas would you re-strengthen on a none genuine frame?

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Posted 19 November 2017 - 07:34 PM

Thanks for the tips gents. At around £220 for non genuine as around £440 for genuine you can see why I'm looking around. As you say, they are a crucial component.

I will leave that item..it's not worth the risk but if you know of a cheaper option or have one for sale then please let me know.

by the way which areas would you re-strengthen on a none genuine frame?

 

I added 2" seam welds to every seam i could get the welder to. You could add gussets in the corners as well if you really want to. 



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Posted 20 November 2017 - 07:33 AM

Thanks very much

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Posted 20 November 2017 - 08:07 AM

https://www.gumtree....used/1274799194

Worth a look maybe




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