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[JonC]

Bit of an odd one. Friend has a very very rotten mk1 car, it's *******, roof is bizarrely about the only thing that hasn't got massive holes or vanished through rusting, front end is destroyed. Engine might be OK it's been kept sealed up plugs in, filler cap on. It has a nice local presuffix plate. 1) Can I buy the wreck and put the plate on another car legally some how? 2) is the roof and possibly engine worth anything? 3) if I go mad and buy the wreck can it be reshelled with a mk1 heritage shell and then legally keep the wrecks identity?

[nicklouse]

1 no that is ringing.

2 might be.

3 yes with a brand new shell.

[JonC]

Thanks Nick (again) with regards 1) I really meant can I transfer the plate legally to say my Mrs audi? I seem to remember you used to have to get the supplying car up to mot standard which may have changed.

[nicklouse]

yes you would need to get it MOTed and they may also want to inspect it as they are tightening up on things like this.

[Retroman]

Nicks right you need to be careful, the DVLA are jumping on various people from various heights

 

The roof will be worth 120 with pillars, problem is they are big when it comes to sending

 

Engine is an unknown, it may well look sealed, but water usually gets down the carb.

[CityEPete]

There's a chance the dvla have already reclaimed the reg if it's been untaxed for ages, does he have a current v5c?

[JonC]

Yes he says so, have no reason to disbelieve him but not seen it yet. Wish I'd taken a photo of the car and could do a check on the plate. Realistically I don't think it's worth much at all, only legit use would be for a heritage shell rebuild or scrap it keeping anything that looks salvageable like the roof. There's a mid sixtees hornet there as well and a metro turbo engine somewhere.

[62S]

There's a chance the dvla have already reclaimed the reg if it's been untaxed for ages, does he have a current v5c?

That does not happen

[CityEPete]

There's a chance the dvla have already reclaimed the reg if it's been untaxed for ages, does he have a current v5c?

That does not happen

If the car has been off the road long enough the car may not be in the system anymore regardless of whether you have the paper log book or not, even if your claim to recover the plate is honoured it will become 'non transferable' making the transfer to another vehicle element of this impossible even with a heritage shell at a later date, it might even be non transferable already on receipt of the new v5.

[CityEPete]

https://www.gov.uk/v...on/old-vehicles

Note the words 'if' and 'may' and 'not registered with the dvla', under the rules years ago the number could have been sold off when the car was quietly rotting away, might be on a new Range Rover by now!

[Retroman]

https://www.gov.uk/v...on/old-vehicles

Note the words 'if' and 'may' and 'not registered with the dvla', under the rules years ago the number could have been sold off when the car was quietly rotting away, might be on a new Range Rover by now!

 

" If "  its  "not registered with the DVLA"  for what ever reason, it won't legally be on any vehicle on a UK road.

 

I don't believe the DVLA sold numbers that had history...what if the original number correct car rolled out of a barn ? and the owner had the old original log book ? I think there would be sewage

[CityEPete]

If it hasn't been taxed since 1983 you CANNOT guarantee that you'll still have that reg, no it won't be on another car but they'll ask to see the car and an owner's club report before giving it back to you, a roof and an old log book won't be enough.

[nicklouse]

someone is having as similar issue on facebook where he has restored a 68 car that was as some time restored/rebuilt .... with a 71 shell. it has not kept the original reg.

[CityEPete]

See I'm not going mad :)

[CityEPete]

And as I said before even if you do get it back the original number becomes non transferable so you can't put it onto something else or sell it, if you've got no history of the car or sentimental link to the car it doesn't really matter does it as long as it gets registered for use, that's going to require a heritage shell and a huge wad of cash either way.