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#1 cradley-heathen

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 07:22 PM

so,cars that are old enough to qualify for MOT exeption, do you just get them to a safe road worthy standard, and then hit the road? or are there any forms you need to fill in? have it inspected etc?

 

I'm just thinking back to years ago when I got a car back on the road that was old enough for tax exemption, but it didn't say "historic vehicle" on the logbook so I had to get that changed before I could tax it for free.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:40 PM

Quite a few of our customers at work own cars that will be MOT exempt. They have asked us if they may still bring the cars in each year for an MOT which of course they can.

I don't think you would need to fill out anything as the tax system should no longer check for MOT when you apply.



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Posted 20 February 2018 - 09:51 PM

I've had an exempt car since the pre 60 rule came in, haven't had to do anything although I've read something about registering about declaring it a car of historic interest when taxing it?

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Posted 20 February 2018 - 10:29 PM

Just been chased by dvla to submit a road tax return for a historic interest car. I assumed that once it had been registered as a historic I could forget about it. But the letter made the usual late response road tax threats, including crushing the car 😮 if I didn't respond. I completed the return online as normal, no charge, everything now ok, but one to be careful about. Might just be prior to the new mot regime being introduced?

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:11 PM

Just been chased by dvla to submit a road tax return for a historic interest car. I assumed that once it had been registered as a historic I could forget about it. But the letter made the usual late response road tax threats, including crushing the car if I didn't respond. I completed the return online as normal, no charge, everything now ok, but one to be careful about. Might just be prior to the new mot regime being introduced?

 

You still have to tax your car every 12 months as usual, just the cost is £0 because it's historic. 



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Posted 21 February 2018 - 01:49 PM


Just been chased by dvla to submit a road tax return for a historic interest car. I assumed that once it had been registered as a historic I could forget about it. But the letter made the usual late response road tax threats, including crushing the car if I didn't respond. I completed the return online as normal, no charge, everything now ok, but one to be careful about. Might just be prior to the new mot regime being introduced?

 
You still have to tax your car every 12 months as usual, just the cost is £0 because it's historic. 

Yep, first time I'd been through the renewal process. Simple enough to do.

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Posted 21 February 2018 - 06:36 PM

If you are thinking about not getting an MoT because it is exempt I would check with your insurance company first as they would be likely to ask for some sort of proof that the car was roadworthy if you made a claim. Anyway I always like to get a second opinion of my maintenance handiwork for the last year.



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 10:17 AM

What I want to know is if you take it for an MOT and the matey fails it, does it then require a retest before you can drive it, just out of mere curiosity,

 

Also what if the average copper stops you and requests you prove the car road worthy, what if then it fails the mot, do they take your car?

Would be awful to have to take it to an mot station and it fails on something nonsense and then you get done for driving a car that's not road worthy



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Posted 22 February 2018 - 12:59 PM

What I want to know is if you take it for an MOT and the matey fails it, does it then require a retest before you can drive it, just out of mere curiosity,
 
Also what if the average copper stops you and requests you prove the car road worthy, what if then it fails the mot, do they take your car?
Would be awful to have to take it to an mot station and it fails on something nonsense and then you get done for driving a car that's not road worthy


No you can drive to and from a pre booked mot without an mot. Even if the tester advises you it dangerous to drive you can still drive it home, my tester gets really hacked off with people who do this but as he says there is nothing he can do.

If plod pull you and find a fault it will result in maybe two things depending on their mood. You get a fine or you get a penalty notice to rectify the fault, after you fixed it you need to take it to a testing station where they will inspect just that fault.

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Posted 22 February 2018 - 02:35 PM

What I want to know is if you take it for an MOT and the matey fails it, does it then require a retest before you can drive it, just out of mere curiosity,
 
Also what if the average copper stops you and requests you prove the car road worthy, what if then it fails the mot, do they take your car?
Would be awful to have to take it to an mot station and it fails on something nonsense and then you get done for driving a car that's not road worthy

No you can drive to and from a pre booked mot without an mot. Even if the tester advises you it dangerous to drive you can still drive it home, my tester gets really hacked off with people who do this but as he says there is nothing he can do.

If plod pull you and find a fault it will result in maybe two things depending on their mood. You get a fine or you get a penalty notice to rectify the fault, after you fixed it you need to take it to a testing station where they will inspect just that fault.
Yes normally, but what he's saying is what happens for an exempt car?

Edited by CityEPete, 22 February 2018 - 02:36 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 03:24 PM

 

 

What I want to know is if you take it for an MOT and the matey fails it, does it then require a retest before you can drive it, just out of mere curiosity,
 
Also what if the average copper stops you and requests you prove the car road worthy, what if then it fails the mot, do they take your car?
Would be awful to have to take it to an mot station and it fails on something nonsense and then you get done for driving a car that's not road worthy

No you can drive to and from a pre booked mot without an mot. Even if the tester advises you it dangerous to drive you can still drive it home, my tester gets really hacked off with people who do this but as he says there is nothing he can do.

If plod pull you and find a fault it will result in maybe two things depending on their mood. You get a fine or you get a penalty notice to rectify the fault, after you fixed it you need to take it to a testing station where they will inspect just that fault.
Yes normally, but what he's saying is what happens for an exempt car?

 

 

 

yes, I'm asking regards to exempt cars, If it fails, do you need a pass once its failed, or is the mot not legally binding,

 

Or does it just have a 'fake' mot where it gets an inspection but nothing vosa official

anyone had experience with this with pre 60's cars?

 

 

EDIT:
I have been reading on the FBHVC website, and it seems that if your exempt classic fails you can in theory continue driving round ignoring the fault/failure,

 

Feb 13 FBHVC newsletter

All testing stations were notified by Special Notice from VOSA that as and from the date of exemption for pre-1960 vehicles, these owners can apply for a voluntary test. These can be booked in the normal way and charged the normal fee (or lower if the garage is giving special offers) and garages cannot refuse to test them. Please notify the secretary if any garages are refusing to conduct a voluntary test.

Any voluntary test should be conducted as previously practiced and the normal pass or failure notification will be issued together with ‘advisories’ if appropriate. It therefore follows that an electronic record will be held on the VOSA database, which the enforcement teams of VOSA and the Police may interrogate. It is plainly not acceptable for owners to ignore a failure and continue to use a vehicle without correcting a known fault and use an excuse of: “Well, I need not have had it tested anyway”. Good practice is to resubmit for a retest after the rectification of a failure fault.

 


Edited by Simont, 22 February 2018 - 03:48 PM.


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Posted 22 February 2018 - 05:46 PM

An mot only proves that the car was roadworthy at the point in time that it was tested. It never means that the car is roadworthy for the entire year as it could develop a fault immediately after it is driven off the ramps.

If it were me, I'd keep up the annual check anyway but you still have to ensure your car is roadworthy at all times regardless of mot or not.

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Posted 08 November 2019 - 11:25 AM

I think the best way to think of it is a vaulentry mot is mearly an inspection rather than a test and any results are advice rather than anything binding. As was mentioned earlier no information should actually be entered onto the mot system, but it might be worth mentioning that to the garage before hand.




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