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#16 Northernpower

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Posted 07 March 2018 - 10:59 AM

 

 

just a comment here Torque steer is i believe the wrong word. what i think you are asking about is tram lining. how the car behaves over imperfections on the road surface.

 

and how the car behaves has much to do with the suspension set up also having an ET close to/or zero can help.

well tram lining too, but i did mean torque steer. like does it pull(turn) almost too much when going around corners fast?

 

Torque steer is very common in a straight line and very often this is induced by high engine torque through unequal length driveshafts. The effect of oversteer or understeer when cornering fast is more to do with suspension setup. You ask about pull(turn) through fast corners, this is more commonly associated with incorrect corner weighting, suspension set up, tyres far wider than the original design parameters for the original suspension set up, hence the understeer or oversteer. I know Nick can answer for himself but technically he was correct in saying its more about tramlining. This is something I have experience of and I'll say it's almost impossible to dial out if you want the look of wide tyres on a road Mini. I have the worst of all worlds, high torque and 175x13 tyres. If you fit wide tyres with a standard engine, the cornering, while not being great, won't be as bad as a high torque output engine.

 

 

 

un equal length drive shafts. torque steer sorry no. some great sales marketing.

Moved this subtopic to stop it hijacking this thread.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 02:22 PM

 

 

 

The 7x10 was an improvement over the previous 6x12's. Despite being 'wider' the centre has no built in spacer so they actually sit closer to the hub and further in the arches than the 6x12's. As for handling it was an improvement. Those are a 3.5"/3.5" inner and outer.

What size and make of tyre have you fitted to them?

 

 

Yokohama A032's. 165/70/10.

 

Interesting. Thanks for the info. Is there more torque steer? just wondering what its like with no power steering

 

 

I keep waiting for someone to ask which 12" tyres were used, but no one seems interested - which I find perplexing.



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:59 PM

 

 

 

The 7x10 was an improvement over the previous 6x12's. Despite being 'wider' the centre has no built in spacer so they actually sit closer to the hub and further in the arches than the 6x12's. As for handling it was an improvement. Those are a 3.5"/3.5" inner and outer.

What size and make of tyre have you fitted to them?

 

 

Yokohama A032's. 165/70/10.

 

Interesting. Thanks for the info. Is there more torque steer? just wondering what its like with no power steering

 

 

Less torque steer, the wheel and tyre combination is lighter overall. Because theres no big spacer behind the centre, as seems common with most cast wheels, the whole wheel sits closer to the hub.

 

Previous tyres were Yokohama A048. I liked them, however the change in the hillclimb regs a couple years ago put end to using them in the roadgoing class for hillclimbs and sprints, hence going down to 10's.


Edited by minimole23, 07 March 2018 - 08:11 PM.





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