The Not What I Was Expecting 1998 Cooper
#1
Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:19 PM
Quick back story, I’ve had my eye on this car as long as I can remember. It was owned by my mums neighbour, a nice old lady who bought it brand new. I always said if she ever wanted to sell it I’d be interested but she loved it so no chance...... Unfortunately she’s been ill and realised she won’t be able to drive again so I got the call from my mum a few weeks ago saying it was up for grabs. Now I hadn’t seen the Mini for years, but was hoping it was going to be a nice straight car as it was always garaged, genuine 42000 miles on the clock etc. Well it turns out it’s actually quite rotten! I went for a look whilst it was at the garage and said I’d have a few days to think about if I was still interested. It really wasn’t what I was expecting and is gonna need a lot of work. Anyway the next day my mum called, and the lady said she wanted me to have the car if I wanted it! She knows I “get” old cars, and just wants it to go to a good home not the scrappy. So decision made and today it got delivered. I’m excited?
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So obviously first thing I did with a rusty Mini was give it a wash! Actually looks really good from a distance?. It’s also the first car I’ve ever had that fits properly in my garage, and my careful pre delivery measurements were correct and I can still get my bike in too so well happy.
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So the plan is to get it stripped and see how bad it really is. I’ve always tinkered with old cars, done bits of welding but nothing to this extent. A new shell is a possible option eventually, but in that case there’s nothing to lose having a go myself on this one. I’m thinking I’ll start at the front and get the wings and front panel off and go from there. Will update once I’ve started :)
#2
Posted 27 June 2018 - 07:53 PM
Good luck with it.
Once you stripped things down and whipped those oversills off you will know the full extent of what you have let yourself in for.
#3
Posted 27 June 2018 - 09:14 PM
always was told newer the car the worse the rust. Cheaper metal
#4
Posted 27 June 2018 - 09:17 PM
Welcome to TMF
Don't be scared of asking anything on here even if its daft...most of us are anyway...hahah
You will no doubt have a few horrors, the oversills hopefully being the biggest one.
Petrol on here started out with a similar Mini bought in similar circumstances and condition and his is now mint, one of the very best, just finished the gearbox with him today.
Check out his thread, he is like me an oldschool perfectionist who knows what he is doing
http://www.theminifo...d-bolt-rebuild/
#5
Posted 27 June 2018 - 09:25 PM
you'll need a whole new floor. Don't muck about like I did, get the fully built heritage one with sills etc
Q
#6
Posted 27 June 2018 - 11:01 PM
Hi, posted briefly in the intro section the other day but the car got delivered today so thought I’d start a thread here.
Quick back story, I’ve had my eye on this car as long as I can remember. It was owned by my mums neighbour, a nice old lady who bought it brand new. I always said if she ever wanted to sell it I’d be interested but she loved it so no chance...... Unfortunately she’s been ill and realised she won’t be able to drive again so I got the call from my mum a few weeks ago saying it was up for grabs. Now I hadn’t seen the Mini for years, but was hoping it was going to be a nice straight car as it was always garaged, genuine 42000 miles on the clock etc. Well it turns out it’s actually quite rotten! I went for a look whilst it was at the garage and said I’d have a few days to think about if I was still interested. It really wasn’t what I was expecting and is gonna need a lot of work. Anyway the next day my mum called, and the lady said she wanted me to have the car if I wanted it! She knows I “get” old cars, and just wants it to go to a good home not the scrappy. So decision made and today it got delivered. I’m excited
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And a few from the garage:
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So obviously first thing I did with a rusty Mini was give it a wash! Actually looks really good from a distance. It’s also the first car I’ve ever had that fits properly in my garage, and my careful pre delivery measurements were correct and I can still get my bike in too so well happy.
3E569E1C-7283-4F48-ABD0-95D6179386CF.jpeg
So the plan is to get it stripped and see how bad it really is. I’ve always tinkered with old cars, done bits of welding but nothing to this extent. A new shell is a possible option eventually, but in that case there’s nothing to lose having a go myself on this one. I’m thinking I’ll start at the front and get the wings and front panel off and go from there. Will update once I’ve started :)
What a lovely old lady. Get it restored, and do it right. I'm sure she'll want to see it all nice and restored once finished.
#7
Posted 28 June 2018 - 08:26 AM
Hi,
First useful bit of advice, don't jack a mini up anywhere other than the subframe!
Unlike the kind person in the garage picture, that floor was probably flat before they got at it.
Cheers
#8
Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:38 AM
Like the sound of the whole floor with the sills, but not sure I’m up to that so would ship it out where as I’m happy to have a go at the front end and possibly the rear. Obviously until it’s stripped it’s hard to see everything, but would it make sense to get the floor/sills done before tackling the front end? Thanks :)
#9
Posted 28 June 2018 - 11:44 AM
Hi,
Just check out the rebuild threads, you'll see everyone welds on brace bars first to keep everything thing square, then its cutout the old and weld in the new
Cheers
#10
Posted 28 June 2018 - 02:47 PM
One, it’s bloody expensive especially if you cannot do it yourself. Two,it may not need it. Yes it’s all done in one go that I can agree with but it’s a very big job.
Get a spit as this will help considerably with the resto. Then once you have cleaned the underside of the car up you will see what needs to be done.
#11
Posted 28 June 2018 - 02:56 PM
#12
Posted 28 June 2018 - 03:17 PM
Really worth doing well what ever you do on such a straight un-messed with car .
Really worth spending the cash on or doing a a1 job .
Good luck with it .
#13
Posted 28 June 2018 - 05:52 PM
Like others have suggested, just go in with your eyes open. It actually looks no worse than anything else an unmolested Mini throws up at 20 years old.
Looks a lovely car by the way, a little sad at the moment, but that will change.
#14
Posted 28 June 2018 - 07:29 PM
The front subframe mount fails are where it bolts to the front panel not at the back end. It’s got serious rot but there’s a lot going for it. It drives, starts and stops perfectly, the interior is spotless apart from a dirty steering wheel and gear knob so mechanically it’s all good. No advisories on the MOT just the fails above. Can’t wait to get cracking if it wasn’t for the footy I’d be out in the garage now!
#15
Posted 28 June 2018 - 07:50 PM
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