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Best Answer Spider , 04 July 2018 - 08:19 AM

The Arm, Thrust face to Thrust Face should measure 4.500". The Pin, Shoulder to Shoulder should measure 4.502".

 

Any chance of posting pics of the thrust faces of the arm?

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#16 Tobyrm1

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:40 PM

https://youtu.be/4yrNudierC4

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:48 PM

Either the thrust plate isn’t seating the thicker washer properly, the 11/16” nuts aren’t tightening up fully or your measurements are off.
If you dry build it out of the frame, how much play is there?

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 09:03 PM

Either the thrust plate isn’t seating the thicker washer properly, the 11/16” nuts aren’t tightening up fully or your measurements are off.
If you dry build it out of the frame, how much play is there?


Everything was done up tight. I will build it up outside of the frame tomorrow and see. Hold it in the vice and take another video.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 06:17 AM

https://youtu.be/wdC5_B1D7VE

This is the arm shaft done up tight not in the frame. Still exactly the same amount of play.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 08:19 AM   Best Answer

The Arm, Thrust face to Thrust Face should measure 4.500". The Pin, Shoulder to Shoulder should measure 4.502".

 

Any chance of posting pics of the thrust faces of the arm?



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Posted 04 July 2018 - 09:32 AM

The Arm, Thrust face to Thrust Face should measure 4.500". The Pin, Shoulder to Shoulder should measure 4.502".

Any chance of posting pics of the thrust faces of the arm?


Thanks for these measurements. The new arm is 4.5” dead. The shaft suppplied was too long so I’ve turned the shoulder down to 4.502”. Assembled it all back together off of the car and the fit is lovely on it. No play but not locked up hard.

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Posted 04 July 2018 - 10:06 AM

 

The Arm, Thrust face to Thrust Face should measure 4.500". The Pin, Shoulder to Shoulder should measure 4.502".

Any chance of posting pics of the thrust faces of the arm?


Thanks for these measurements. The new arm is 4.5” dead. The shaft suppplied was too long so I’ve turned the shoulder down to 4.502”. Assembled it all back together off of the car and the fit is lovely on it. No play but not locked up hard.

 

 

Nice one :proud:



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:30 AM

https://youtu.be/wdC5_B1D7VE

This is the arm shaft done up tight not in the frame. Still exactly the same amount of play.

 

Is this the WHOLE arm moving left to right, between the thrust washers, or play between the axe and the arm / bearings ?

 

With the arm held in a vice and the axe slid through the bearings, can you wobble the axe while holding it at each end ? It shouldn't move.

 

If by removing a bit of metal you have just squeezed the thrust washers onto the sides of the arms to make it all tight, then it won't last a week.



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Posted 05 July 2018 - 05:00 PM


https://youtu.be/wdC5_B1D7VE

This is the arm shaft done up tight not in the frame. Still exactly the same amount of play.


Is this the WHOLE arm moving left to right, between the thrust washers, or play between the axe and the arm / bearings ?

With the arm held in a vice and the axe slid through the bearings, can you wobble the axe while holding it at each end ? It shouldn't move.

If by removing a bit of metal you have just squeezed the thrust washers onto the sides of the arms to make it all tight, then it won't last a week.

There Isn’t any play that you can feel with the shaft in the bearings. It’s the arm going backwards and forwards

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 05:25 PM

OK. That's good then. My TF front arms wobble and on the actual axe.
I might try some minispares ones now.

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Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:09 PM

OK. That's good then. My TF front arms wobble and on the actual axe.
I might try some minispares ones now.

 

What's the Bearing Number of the bearings used in the TF Arms?



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Posted 06 July 2018 - 10:49 AM

Oh, um, I have no idea. I remember looking years ago and B22 comes to mind.
Mine are original on my TF and have always knocked. I bought a few kits from mike satur a couple of years ago and they were even worse when I changed a friends TF with one of the kits.

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 10:50 AM

PS. The kits are the same for mini, metro, MGF front and rear and TF front.

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Posted 06 July 2018 - 11:22 AM

OK Cheers Pete and yes, I do recall them all using the same kits.

 

Check the OD of the shafts, they should be 0.7495 - 0.750" dia.

 

There were some rubbish kits getting about a few years back.



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Posted 06 July 2018 - 04:47 PM

I must have bought a few then. Made in hong kong it says on the bag of bits.




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