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#1 Ol timer

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Posted 07 July 2018 - 10:46 AM

Recently I had an issue with the ignition barrel on my mini 1000 mk3 1972
After taking the steering cowling off the back end of the ignition barrel was hanging off. I believe I gathered up all the parts.
does anyone have an assembly picture of the parts as shown in attached photo

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#2 Retroman

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 12:41 AM

There is at least one part missing...there should be a cover over the gubbins and probably 3 ball bearings

 

I've been doing Minis since 1979 and have never seen inside one

 

You will be very lucky to find an assembly image as its not a component normally rebuilt.

 

They are also NLA so it either rebulid it or 2nd hand



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Posted 09 July 2018 - 10:50 AM

Thanks for your reply.. I have managed to put it back together less the key return spring as I couldn't work. That bit out. Just found out that the switch is a lucas 39683e ignition switch. Which is unavailable. Trying to. Hunt down a replacement

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 01:12 PM

Just buy a new steering lock assembly for about 25 quid

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Posted 09 July 2018 - 07:39 PM

Sounds easy but the MK3 pre 76 lock and switch is NLA

 

And if its a true Mk3 the lock is the awkward 90 degree one which was only fitted 5 or 6 years.

 

It would be easier to swap to a later columb, cowl and lock



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Posted 10 July 2018 - 08:02 AM

Forgot it was a mk3. Might be able to pick one up off eBay. They turn up every now and then for about 50 quid

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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:24 AM

....Just found out that the switch is a lucas 39683e ignition switch....

Where did you get that number from?

So many websites, so much conflicting information! I tend to use Somerfords, it's generally more accurate http://www.somerford...page=page&id=86

 

Mk3 would have been fitted with either a Magnatex or a Lowe & Fletcher ignition steering lock, both had the same part number 18G8892!

 The Magnatex ('safety' lock) is marked Neiman-tex 01 13H7565-6 & the switch is 37H6544 (yours isn't that one).

Can't remember the number on the Lowe & Fletcher steering lock but the switch is 37H6962

https://www.ebay.co....6kAAOxyzHxRSOai

 

Fit a later column & lock to a Mk3 :o  ....You should be burnt as heretics :P


Edited by Itsaminithing, 10 July 2018 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted 10 July 2018 - 09:11 PM

 

....Just found out that the switch is a lucas 39683e ignition switch....

Where did you get that number from?

So many websites, so much conflicting information! I tend to use Somerfords, it's generally more accurate http://www.somerford...page=page&id=86

 

Mk3 would have been fitted with either a Magnatex or a Lowe & Fletcher ignition steering lock, both had the same part number 18G8892!

 The Magnatex ('safety' lock) is marked Neiman-tex 01 13H7565-6 & the switch is 37H6544 (yours isn't that one).

Can't remember the number on the Lowe & Fletcher steering lock but the switch is 37H6962

https://www.ebay.co....6kAAOxyzHxRSOai

 

Fit a later column & lock to a Mk3 :o  ....You should be burnt as heretics :P

 

I got the number from the side of the switch... I have contacted a few places and they say that they are no longer available... I really don't want to fit a younger steering lock assy... it is running but I don't have the key return spring fitted so have to start it then turn back a click once started... will look out for a second hand column with lock and just rip the switch off it



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Posted 10 July 2018 - 10:54 PM

I've already given you all the info you need.

You have a Lowe & Fletcher Mk3 ignition steering lock (check the number on the main body, it will be 13H6966/7)

The switch is marked 39683e, the actual part number is 37H6962.

 

My comment about burning heretics was for anyone suggesting fitting a Mk4 lock instead of the correct MK3 (there isn't a younger steering lock assy, they only came in with the Mk3).



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Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:46 AM

Thanks for your reply.. I have managed to put it back together less the key return spring as I couldn't work. That bit out. Just found out that the switch is a lucas 39683e ignition switch. Which is unavailable. Trying to. Hunt down a replacement



Here's the innards of my 72 mk3 lowe and fletcher switch, hope it helps you fit your return spring. I couldn't get a replacement 15 years ago when this one packed up.

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Posted 11 July 2018 - 10:05 PM

is this the same on ebay

 

273350362791

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 07:19 AM

is this the same on ebay
 
273350362791

273350362791

Doesn't look like a mk3 to me

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Posted 12 July 2018 - 08:33 AM

is this the same on ebay

 

273350362791

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No, it's a post '76 Mk4 ignition steering lock.

Ignition steering locks weren't even fitted untill October 1970

(maybe it's off one of those pesky time travelling Minis, you know the ones -log book/vin plate says MK3, but every single part except the rear lights are Mk4 or later).



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Posted 13 July 2018 - 05:17 PM

 

Thanks for your reply.. I have managed to put it back together less the key return spring as I couldn't work. That bit out. Just found out that the switch is a lucas 39683e ignition switch. Which is unavailable. Trying to. Hunt down a replacement



Here's the innards of my 72 mk3 lowe and fletcher switch, hope it helps you fit your return spring. I couldn't get a replacement 15 years ago when this one packed up.

 

Thanks for that.. was perfect, now I have a perfectly working ignition switch. Cant thank everyone enough



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 05:35 AM

Hi All,

I had a little win and have some good info for anyone looking to replace their NLA Early MK3 switch. I spent 12 hrs solid at work looking on the net for possible other switches that would fit, I eventually settled on this MGB switch, I took a gamble and bought it and it turned up yesterday and fits well, haven't tried the cowl on it yet but it should fit. It's a Neiman switch and looks pretty similar to the mini one, not that I had one to compare it to. 

https://www.google.c...538714208416688

 

There are other mgb switches which look the same but appear to fit a larger diameter steering column, this particular one is the only one I found with the smaller diameter and it fits the mini.  The part number is ADU 3341

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