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#16 gaspen

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Posted 21 July 2018 - 08:26 PM

Seems like it's been swapped about a bit, the engine looks to me to be a metro engine or from a 90's cooper due to the flat thermostat housing, which would make the engine a 1275.

 

Values hard to say really as you're in Budapest so the pricing would be different to the uk. any more photos of it?

 

 Uploaded the pics to google, hope you can see it.

 

https://photos.app.g...j7fgeQRXShjKpr9

 

 

The car is 200+ km from me, so I want to be sure what I get before I travel. Brake servo and possibly disc brakes are good news, also the 1275 engine if it is right. As far as I know these engines was painted to red in factory, instead of 850/998/1098's green.

 

Could it be a HIF carburettor ?

 

What I don't like is the instrument panel, the alternator mounting, the repainted body.



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Posted 21 July 2018 - 08:40 PM

One more thing I noticed : if I zoom to the engine block I can read MFW1024

 

Regarding the info at MiniSpares it must be an 1275 A+ engine  :shifty:


 

WFM1024 on front top 1275-A plus 11/16" oil filter pipe thread

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Posted 22 July 2018 - 05:26 PM

 

mini special

 

Are you sure ? In 1972 there wasn't "Special" I think.

 

The VIN starts with XA2S1N, engine is 99H353EH so it was born as a Mini 1000.

 

Also it has 12" wheels now, which wasn't standard in '72, I believe.

 

The car stored in a garage for 8 years, now it is inoperative, but complete. It is in a good shape, I plane to buy it.

 

What do you think about its value ?

 

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:13 AM

 

 

mini special

 

Are you sure ? In 1972 there wasn't "Special" I think.

 

The VIN starts with XA2S1N, engine is 99H353EH so it was born as a Mini 1000.

 

Also it has 12" wheels now, which wasn't standard in '72, I believe.

 

The car stored in a garage for 8 years, now it is inoperative, but complete. It is in a good shape, I plane to buy it.

 

What do you think about its value ?

 

you asked and I answered DOH

 

I accept this, I just want to know why you think it is a Special ?

 



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Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:31 AM

The chassis number looks 1972 but the bodyshell looks later than that.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:40 AM

The chassis number looks 1972 but the bodyshell looks later than that.

 

What are the signs of a later chassis ? Maybe the rear lamps ?



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Posted 23 July 2018 - 07:47 AM

The drainage cut outs at the top of the vertical seams. A 1972 car would not have those.

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Posted 23 July 2018 - 08:08 AM

The drainage cut outs at the top of the vertical seams. A 1972 car would not have those.

 

I see, thanks

 

Anybody could estimate the value of this car ?  I offered 1600-1800 GBP for it.


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Posted 23 July 2018 - 03:46 PM

It's got an 86 onwards servo fitted.....

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Posted 24 July 2018 - 07:46 AM

How can we decide the performance of the engine with these "fake" data ?

 

The engine is an A+ 1275 with HIF carb. It could be 50, 61 or even 78(?) HP regarding to Wiki

 

https://en.wikipedia...A-series_engine



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Posted 24 July 2018 - 10:48 AM

Engine performance on that car doesn't matter.

You would be very unwise to buy it, there isn't even one part of that car that is from 1972, it has a fake identity & might even be stolen.

 

You might want to join the Mini Club Hungary http://www.miniclub.hu/index.asp?lng=2

https://www.facebook...iniclubhungary/

They might know of any local Minis for sale. They will have a better idea of the true value of cars in your country & should know which cars are worth buying.

When you find another Mini you are interested in & thinking of buying it then just ask on the forum for a second opinion (with so many members on here someone might spot something that everybody else missed).

 

Edit: this is a genuine (1969-1976) Mk3 Mini, you can see the drainage holes on the roof that 62S was talking about -if it hasn't got those then it's not a mk3.

https://petrolicious...oper-in-hungary


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Posted 24 July 2018 - 08:49 PM

Engine performance on that car doesn't matter.

You would be very unwise to buy it, there isn't even one part of that car that is from 1972, it has a fake identity & might even be stolen.

 

You might want to join the Mini Club Hungary http://www.miniclub.hu/index.asp?lng=2

https://www.facebook...iniclubhungary/

They might know of any local Minis for sale. They will have a better idea of the true value of cars in your country & should know which cars are worth buying.

When you find another Mini you are interested in & thinking of buying it then just ask on the forum for a second opinion (with so many members on here someone might spot something that everybody else missed).

 

Edit: this is a genuine (1969-1976) Mk3 Mini, you can see the drainage holes on the roof that 62S was talking about -if it hasn't got those then it's not a mk3.

https://petrolicious...oper-in-hungary

 

"You would be very unwise to buy it"

 

I totally accept it. My first approach was to buying a Mini that I purchase an Mk3 or 4 and restore it to factory standards. Sadly I can't find any here, so I have to choose from the selection if I want a Mini.

But I have to draw a line : only a clean car acceptable. Thanks everyone who dehorn from a fake one :)

 

"You might want to join the Mini Club Hungary"

 

Last time I asked them about the "Britax" replica with De Tomaso VIN - see earlier in this topic - they said : why I care about the fake VIN ? It's all the same.

 

Finally, to see how hard to find a good project car : there is an 1991 Mini 1000 "After Eight" for sale, ~1600 GBP. It has a good chassis, but probably one of the connection rod bearings is faulty. It is clapping at higher loads.



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Posted 31 July 2018 - 06:20 PM

Found a 1971 Authi Mini today, no rust, engine starts and runs smooth, has original parts and nice interiro. It needs a respray, because the primer / putty cracked on the sunshine. 

 

What's your opinion ?

 

 

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Posted 31 July 2018 - 11:10 PM

Now that's more like it -it looks quite good.

I don't believe it has NO rust, that would be like finding a chicken with teeth, or an honest politician. Lets just say it has very little rust that you can see.

Is it a 850 or a 1000? http://www.austinmin...thi1000mk3.html

 

Does it have a hole (maybe covered with a plate) inside the boot/behind the rear seat like the UK cars? (that's one way you can tell if a UK car is a 1971).


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Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:26 AM

Now that's more like it -it looks quite good.

I don't believe it has NO rust, that would be like finding a chicken with teeth, or an honest politician. Lets just say it has very little rust that you can see.

Is it a 850 or a 1000? http://www.austinmin...thi1000mk3.html

 

Does it have a hole (maybe covered with a plate) inside the boot/behind the rear seat like the UK cars? (that's one way you can tell if a UK car is a 1971).

 

Yesterday I called a local Mini mechanic if he knows about any Mini for sale. I visit him in the afternoon and he showed me this Authi. It is a 1000 cc, I like that car  :shifty:

 

The owner renewed it for 15 (!) years, but sadly he passed away when the car was 99% and his son can not store the car so he'd sell it. Let's say there is no rust at all on the usual places. And the price the same is as a '92 Mayfair that I visited last week. No question.

 

I don't remember the hole at the rear seats, but next week I'll check it : I have the opportunity to inspect the bottom of the car when it will be lifted and I can take it for a test drive also  :proud:

 

1) The VIN starts with XL, as I know the 2nd letter shows the engine type. It isn't an A-series ?

 

2) Engine number does not have eny suffix, and it is "hammered" into the block instead of a riveted plate. Is it normal for that car ?

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