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#46 gaspen

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 11:15 AM

At the moment i dont have more pictures but I'll take some more next time.

Thank you for the infos ?

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Posted 09 August 2018 - 03:35 PM

A 'Z' at the end of the chassis number is correct for an Authi and the engine number looks like an Authi stamping. I think this could be a special edition called the Authi Mini Jubilee built in 1975, if so it would have originally been painted brown. Do you have more pictures?

 

Hello 62S

 

I found some pics about the Jubilee edition.

 

http://foromini.mini...p?topic=28962.0

 

Maybe this could be the reason for the "Morris" chassis plate ?



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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:06 PM

We knew the seats looked like Authi, we knew the engine number was stamped like Authi.

Only problem was Authi cars always seemed to have Authi Vin plates-

 

just found this- http://www.miniseven...t=49226#p567797

That Jubilee has an Austin Morris VIN plate.

Few more pics of Jubilee

http://www.miniseven...t=49226#p567797

http://www.miniseven...hp?f=46&t=49226

 

When you get the chance have a look at the driveshafts, if they are the same as the other Authis they should look like this

http://mk1-forum.net...=19872&p=165426


Edited by Itsaminithing, 01 September 2018 - 06:39 PM.


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Posted 09 August 2018 - 05:31 PM

I've just find in the national register that the date of manufacture is 1975. It is the year of Jubilee edition as 62S wrote.

 

In topics we found they wrote that only 7-8 Jubilee edition found from the 1000 manufactured cars.  O_O



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Posted 12 August 2018 - 06:47 PM

Started a topic a the spanish forum, I got a lot's of info there

 

http://foromini.mini...p?topic=32073.0

 

Look at this picture below. It's a real Authi Mini Jubilee, The chassis plate is similar to "my" Mini.

 

 

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Posted 13 August 2018 - 10:27 AM

So have you bought it yet?

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Posted 14 August 2018 - 04:10 PM

So have you bought it yet?

 

Not, yet. It is a difficult story.



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Posted 16 August 2018 - 07:02 PM

Started a topic a the spanish forum, I got a lot's of info there

 

http://foromini.mini...p?topic=32073.0

 

That Spanish forum has some good information on how to spot an Authi.... but it also has a lot of wrong information-

British Leyland Belgium manufactured a metallic silver anniversary model called the Jubilee in 1975 at their Seniffe assembly plant (from memory i think 3000 cars were made), they were sold throughout Europe.

Those cars have absolutely nothing to do with the Authi Jubileum (Dutch for Jubilee) that marked the 15th year anniversary of British Leyland Netherlands, these were only sold in the Netherlands.

 

It's looking more & more likely that the car is an Authi , but less likely that it's a Jubilee model-

The Jubilee model was only ever painted in Meaple Brown & they had a white (or possibly cream) vinyl roof.

The driveshafts i mentioned should prove it's an Authi, that & the fact that their panels were different, many features that were discontinued on UK cars continued to be used on Authis -it seems likely they retained the ashtray panels in the rear bins & the rotadip hole in the back seat.

 

After a big fire in the Pamplona assembly buildings in Oct 1974 a much reduced number of Minis were still being assembled but as BL were in the middle of selling Authi they were winding down production & the stocks of parts - so in 1974/75 they MIGHT have used up stocks of seats with the horizontal stripes instead of the usual vertical striped seats shown in their Mini 1000 adverts.

 

It would be a good idea to join the Netherlands Mini Seven Club http://www.minisevenclub.nl/forum - they will know how to tell if that car is an Authi Jubilee or a standard Authi Mini 1000.


Edited by Itsaminithing, 04 February 2020 - 11:11 AM.


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Posted 17 August 2018 - 06:28 AM

I wrote some message to NL already a week ago but no response until now. 

 

I believe it was the belgian Jubilee  : http://www.austinmin...ubilee1975.html

 

Regarding to the spanish forum the car could be an Authi Jubilee. Maybe they riveted the british VIN plates for the export model(s) ?

 

As I remember the first meet, where the painting was cracked on the car I saw some reddish-brown under the putty.



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 11:03 AM

Untill i started researching the Authi Jubilee i had only ever seen Authi plates fitted.

As far as i know most exported cars normally had Authi plates -a lot of the Spanish Minis were exported especially to Switzerland.

We can worry about if it's a standard Authi Mini 1000 or a Jubilee if (or after) you buy it.



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Posted 23 August 2018 - 08:41 PM

Just a little update : I'm will meet the owner and the Mini on Saturday. I'll take a test drive and a lots of inspection.

 

Do you have any advice ?



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Posted 25 August 2018 - 11:55 AM

New pictures of the Authi

 

https://photos.app.g...BqbQysFDisZrwi6



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Posted 27 August 2018 - 11:04 AM

As far as i know most exported cars normally had Authi plates -a lot of the Spanish Minis were exported especially to Switzerland.

Spanish built Mini's were not exported despite what you may read elsewhere... apart from the Jubilee. There was talk of cars being built for Switzerland but apparently it didn't happen.

It definitely looks to be the original Authi built shell. Other than the small area of rust on the floor it looks pretty solid.

When the Authi Cooper was launched in late 1973 they had the double UJ driveshaft but I'm not sure if the Jubilee had them as a couple of other Jubilee cars don't have them but a lot can change in 40+ years.

If it is a Jubilee it has had a very comprehensive respray. Authi had a Racing Green (Verde Competicion) paint colour but it was not metallic and not as dark as the Rover Cooper Racing Green which looks very like the colour of this car at the moment.

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Posted 27 August 2018 - 03:29 PM

This is what I wrote on the spanish forum :

 

The car was made 43 years ago. Probably it was sold from hand to hand during the years, this way to get the Mini to Hungary. I do not know where the owner bought this car, but during the years of communism it was not easy to buy a Mini, lots of them bought in western countries. 


I was looking for brown painting below the mats, behind the instruments, behind the pedals but I only found red (Red Navarre?) As you can see on some pictures. Also there is a thick coat of paint and primer on the body. 

Sadly I was not able to drive it, because the registration certificate has expired 3 weeks ago. And I could not press the clutch pedal at all. 

In the hungarian licenses there is no record for the provenance.

The price of the car is 2800EUR without license, 3800 with license. I think it's a little bit high considering its condition. The owner traveled to holiday for two weeks, and he will call me after that. So we'll see if we can make a deal. 


Edited by gaspen, 27 August 2018 - 03:30 PM.


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Posted 28 August 2018 - 08:43 AM

 

As far as i know most exported cars normally had Authi plates -a lot of the Spanish Minis were exported especially to Switzerland.

Spanish built Mini's were not exported despite what you may read elsewhere...

 

 

Newspaper financial report from March 1974- https://www.aronline...pain-for-26-7m/

According to the article during 1973 alone 9000 Authi Minis were exported with 6000 going to Switzerland

During research i also found an article by a BL Authi Exec who mentioned the Authi Mini exports to Switzerland.... not exactly huge numbers of cars involved but they did exist.


Edited by Itsaminithing, 28 August 2018 - 09:12 AM.





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