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#16 jsyjamie

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:39 AM

Engine – Specialist Components

 

I had bought the turbo and was happy with the route I was going so I contacted Specialist Components to discuss what kit they could put together for my MPi turbo build.

 

After religiously reading Steve220’s thread many times I decided that I wanted to side mount the radiator as it is now in the ’94 Mayfair body shell. This would give me more space out front for an intercooler.

 

John and Jack at SC were very helpful, and I added on their MAP sensor and Boost Control Valve to save any headaches.

 

https://www.speciali...bo-engines.html

 

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Also, their GT1752 Turbo Inlet Adaptor

 

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This very expensive box arrived a few weeks later.

 

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I also bought an AEM Wideband gauge and sensor kit so that I could keep an eye on the air/fuel ratio in real time which is very important in a forced induction engine.

 

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 09:44 AM

Hi,

I'd recommend getting an ECU with the wideband built in. 

There's lots of ECUs out there you don't have to buy SC stuff, as it's basically an SPI system almost any ECU can do the job.

I've fitted a VEMS ECU. It's got WBO2, EGT, knock and can map the fuelling itself.

You can have basic traction control, LCD display or a tablet on the dash too.

There's an output for a configurable engine management warning light if you want one.

Tuning Software and cable are free unlike most others, firmware gets regular factory updates too.

I've not found a thing it won't do yet!

Download vems display and try the demo...

Cheers  :proud:


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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:04 PM

The ecu will take the wideband feed, you'll Just need to install it further down the downpipe and bung up the original lambda hole, it will need some changes to the loom though. For your sake I hope you didn't buy the map sensor from them, they have a %500 mark up on it.
could I be cheeky and ask for a copy of the map they've given you? SC don't reply to my emails asking for it and I need to run the engine in!

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:05 PM

Noticed you've only got the green injectors.. That'll seriously limit your power.

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Posted 02 October 2018 - 12:15 PM

Enjoying this new build.

 

Always nice to have someone on here from Jersey.

 

Good luck with the build Jamie



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 01:56 PM

The ecu will take the wideband feed, you'll Just need to install it further down the downpipe and bung up the original lambda hole, it will need some changes to the loom though. For your sake I hope you didn't buy the map sensor from them, they have a %500 mark up on it.
could I be cheeky and ask for a copy of the map they've given you? SC don't reply to my emails asking for it and I need to run the engine in!

 

Noticed you've only got the green injectors.. That'll seriously limit your power.

 

I asked SC to adapt their loom for the wideband and MAP sensor so hopefully it should be plug and play (famous last words!).

 

SC haven't sent me a map unless I'm missing something? Would it have been on a USB or email?

 

Might be worth speaking to Chris at Crafted Classics Tuning Ltd, he's build quite a few forced induction injection engines using the SC kit...

 

I did ask the question about the injectors as I remember seeing yours were upgraded but SC said they will be fine for my application, roughly 160-180bhp. If not they'll be changing them FOC for lying to me!



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 01:58 PM

Enjoying this new build.

 

Always nice to have someone on here from Jersey.

 

Good luck with the build Jamie

 

Thanks mate.

 

Hope to catch you in the rally next week. 

 

Fingers crossed it goes better than last year!  :-)



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 05:17 PM

Hi,

Does it use the MPI trigger wheel on the back of the flywheel?

Cheers  :proud:



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:14 PM

 

The ecu will take the wideband feed, you'll Just need to install it further down the downpipe and bung up the original lambda hole, it will need some changes to the loom though. For your sake I hope you didn't buy the map sensor from them, they have a %500 mark up on it.
could I be cheeky and ask for a copy of the map they've given you? SC don't reply to my emails asking for it and I need to run the engine in!

 

Noticed you've only got the green injectors.. That'll seriously limit your power.

 

I asked SC to adapt their loom for the wideband and MAP sensor so hopefully it should be plug and play (famous last words!).

 

SC haven't sent me a map unless I'm missing something? Would it have been on a USB or email?

 

Might be worth speaking to Chris at Crafted Classics Tuning Ltd, he's build quite a few forced induction injection engines using the SC kit...

 

I did ask the question about the injectors as I remember seeing yours were upgraded but SC said they will be fine for my application, roughly 160-180bhp. If not they'll be changing them FOC for lying to me!

 

 

Greens, unless they've changed their specs, are only good for around 120bhp. The map should be on the ECU.



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Posted 02 October 2018 - 07:14 PM

Hi,

Does it use the MPI trigger wheel on the back of the flywheel?

Cheers  :proud:

 

Yes.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:01 AM

 

 

The ecu will take the wideband feed, you'll Just need to install it further down the downpipe and bung up the original lambda hole, it will need some changes to the loom though. For your sake I hope you didn't buy the map sensor from them, they have a %500 mark up on it.
could I be cheeky and ask for a copy of the map they've given you? SC don't reply to my emails asking for it and I need to run the engine in!

 

Noticed you've only got the green injectors.. That'll seriously limit your power.

 

I asked SC to adapt their loom for the wideband and MAP sensor so hopefully it should be plug and play (famous last words!).

 

SC haven't sent me a map unless I'm missing something? Would it have been on a USB or email?

 

Might be worth speaking to Chris at Crafted Classics Tuning Ltd, he's build quite a few forced induction injection engines using the SC kit...

 

I did ask the question about the injectors as I remember seeing yours were upgraded but SC said they will be fine for my application, roughly 160-180bhp. If not they'll be changing them FOC for lying to me!

 

 

Greens, unless they've changed their specs, are only good for around 120bhp. The map should be on the ECU.

 

 

Not happy in that case! Which injectors do you have Steve?

 

I'll download the map tonight and send it across.



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:27 AM

Engine – Manifold

 

Memories of friends modifying their bulkheads to fit a turbo made me shudder but using the GT1752 and a new manifold meant that this wasn’t required.

 

Fusion Fabrications was the name which kept popping up and the quality of the products on their website and Facebook page looked incredible.

 

https://www.fusionfa...nd-downpipe-kit

 

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Browsing on the Facebook page the side mount manifold and downpipe came up and looked amazing. I reached out to Matt and placed an order. In for a penny, in for a pound, may as well do this properly!

 

A few weeks later another expensive box turned up on my door step. Pure weld porn!

 

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Fit's like a glove.

 

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Cheers,

 

Jamie

 

 

 



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 07:53 AM

very smart!



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Posted 03 October 2018 - 01:48 PM

Side mount, NICE!!!

 

I've got the black injectors on mine.



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Posted 04 October 2018 - 07:37 AM

Engine – Radiator

 

Living on an island measuring 9 by 5 miles means the Mini doesn’t get too many long runs. My commute to work is around 15 mins and from one end of the island to the other in rush hour isn’t going to take more than an hour and half that time will be spent stationary!

 

That being said a few hours on a French motorway and blasting round a track would get the engine temperatures up.

 

I ordered a Chinese eBay radiator more out of curiosity than anything else and a few weeks later this arrived.

 

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It looks good! The standard radiator has a 42mm core and this one is closer to 50mm...

 

Possible fitment issues?

 

Should I trust a Chinese eBay radiator?

 

Cheers,

 

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