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[luismx123]

slightly off-topic, but..... perhaps you remember the 1300cc Peugeot 205 Rallye. Fitted from works with steel wheels.. why? Because they are lighter, they said...and steel is more forgiving especially on rough ground...

Thats interesting. I didnt think about durability at all. Im not the boy racer type but I enjoy taking fast corners and I can sometimes end up close to a curb or two
I think the weight difference isnt enough to be felt on a road going car. Racers here will probably say different ;)

[DeadSquare]

There are sometimes advantages to steeI wheels, and it always pays to read the regulations.

 

For a motor club trials, on a muddy stubble field, weight over the driving wheels is an advantage, so front wheel drive dominated the entries, although Beetles also did well.

 

I had a special set of wheels and tyres.  I sliced round a couple of standard mini wheels, in the well of the wheel, and welded in a 2 1/2" strip of steel.

 

I fitted 155 weathermaster tyres and filled them with water.

 

One or two scrutineers muttered that the wheels were too wide, but I always offered to borrow someone elses wheels.

 

Fortunately, they never noticed that the front bumper was filled with lead.

[nicklouse]

There are sometimes advantages to steeI wheels, and it always pays to read the regulations.

 

For a motor club trials, on a muddy stubble field, weight over the driving wheels is an advantage, so front wheel drive dominated the entries, although Beetles also did well.

 

I had a special set of wheels and tyres.  I sliced round a couple of standard mini wheels, in the well of the wheel, and welded in a 2 1/2" strip of steel.

 

I fitted 155 weathermaster tyres and filled them with water.

 

One or two scrutineers muttered that the wheels were too wide, but I always offered to borrow someone elses wheels.

 

Fortunately, they never noticed that the front bumper was filled with lead.

only the front bumper, did you not flatten of the foot-wells under the carpet with lead?

[DeadSquare]

 

There are sometimes advantages to steeI wheels, and it always pays to read the regulations.

 

For a motor club trials, on a muddy stubble field, weight over the driving wheels is an advantage, so front wheel drive dominated the entries, although Beetles also did well.

 

I had a special set of wheels and tyres.  I sliced round a couple of standard mini wheels, in the well of the wheel, and welded in a 2 1/2" strip of steel.

 

I fitted 155 weathermaster tyres and filled them with water.

 

One or two scrutineers muttered that the wheels were too wide, but I always offered to borrow someone elses wheels.

 

Fortunately, they never noticed that the front bumper was filled with lead.

only the front bumper, did you not flatten of the foot-wells under the carpet with lead?

 

 

I like to give the other fellas a bit of a chance, don't y'know;  I'm not a complete cad, old boy, what what!

[Retroman]

There are sometimes advantages to steeI wheels, and it always pays to read the regulations.

 

For a motor club trials, on a muddy stubble field, weight over the driving wheels is an advantage, so front wheel drive dominated the entries, although Beetles also did well.

 

I had a special set of wheels and tyres.  I sliced round a couple of standard mini wheels, in the well of the wheel, and welded in a 2 1/2" strip of steel.

 

I fitted 155 weathermaster tyres and filled them with water.

 

One or two scrutineers muttered that the wheels were too wide, but I always offered to borrow someone elses wheels.

 

Fortunately, they never noticed that the front bumper was filled with lead.

 

Not sure what year but the MSA banned banded steel wheels for motorsport a long time ago

 

Nick might know, Allan Staniforth and his friends were worried as they were running banded steelies

 

So they sand cast some Mamba copies 7 x 10 I have a pair on a 4 " PCD

 

Apparently they were different PCD's as they were drilled for different hubs depending on who's motor they were for

 

Allan was running the Terapins [ A series rear engined spaceframe ] on sprints and hillclimbs then and winning a lot

[DeadSquare]

 

There are sometimes advantages to steeI wheels, and it always pays to read the regulations.

 

For a motor club trials, on a muddy stubble field, weight over the driving wheels is an advantage, so front wheel drive dominated the entries, although Beetles also did well.

 

I had a special set of wheels and tyres.  I sliced round a couple of standard mini wheels, in the well of the wheel, and welded in a 2 1/2" strip of steel.

 

I fitted 155 weathermaster tyres and filled them with water.

 

One or two scrutineers muttered that the wheels were too wide, but I always offered to borrow someone elses wheels.

 

Fortunately, they never noticed that the front bumper was filled with lead.

 

Not sure what year but the MSA banned banded steel wheels for motorsport a long time ago

 

Nick might know, Allan Staniforth and his friends were worried as they were running banded steelies

 

So they sand cast some Mamba copies 7 x 10 I have a pair on a 4 " PCD

 

Apparently they were different PCD's as they were drilled for different hubs depending on who's motor they were for

 

Allan was running the Terapins [ A series rear engined spaceframe ] on sprints and hillclimbs then and winning a lot

 

 

It is little gems of information like that, which make this site so interesting.

 

I chose to slice my rims in the well, because getting close to the dish gave the greatest strength.   I actually used a 3" strip of steel to make a 1/4" overlap which gave me a double seam of weld for extra strength (and it added to the weight, Lol)

Edited by DeadSquare, 22 November 2018 - 09:02 AM.

[nicklouse]

 

 

There are sometimes advantages to steeI wheels, and it always pays to read the regulations.

 

For a motor club trials, on a muddy stubble field, weight over the driving wheels is an advantage, so front wheel drive dominated the entries, although Beetles also did well.

 

I had a special set of wheels and tyres.  I sliced round a couple of standard mini wheels, in the well of the wheel, and welded in a 2 1/2" strip of steel.

 

I fitted 155 weathermaster tyres and filled them with water.

 

One or two scrutineers muttered that the wheels were too wide, but I always offered to borrow someone elses wheels.

 

Fortunately, they never noticed that the front bumper was filled with lead.

 

Not sure what year but the MSA banned banded steel wheels for motorsport a long time ago

 

Nick might know, Allan Staniforth and his friends were worried as they were running banded steelies

 

So they sand cast some Mamba copies 7 x 10 I have a pair on a 4 " PCD

 

Apparently they were different PCD's as they were drilled for different hubs depending on who's motor they were for

 

Allan was running the Terapins [ A series rear engined spaceframe ] on sprints and hillclimbs then and winning a lot

 

 

It is little gems of information like that, which make this site so interesting.

 

I chose to slice my rims in the well, because getting close to the dish gave the greatest strength.   I actually used a 3" strip of steel to make a 1/4" overlap which gave me a double seam of weld for extra strength (and it added to the weight, Lol)

 

where Alan recommended in using thinner steel than the wheel was made from as he was after reducing as much weight as possible.

 

As it happens I have 2 of his books by me today. he does not mention banded steels at all just the Mamba "Solar" as a three piece wheel that he had had accidents with a few times and how well they had held up.

[Retroman]

From Allans   High Speed Low Cost book....the full Terrapin story

 

They made 6 and 8 inch and it was the valve holes that ended up different. Mine measure 7 1/2

 

Late '68 RAC decided not to ban the banded wheels for 1969 , but maybe it came in 1970

 

Interesting that it was wheel nuts over-tightened that cased more failures

 

 

 

So they only made a small batch of the sand cast wide Mamba's, they do feel quite beefy and weigh 3.4kg

 

and have obviously been nicely lathe finished

[nicklouse]

HSLC is not in my collection. I felt the info would have been in that one.