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#1 johnR

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 09:19 PM

While preparing my engine bay for the new 1291 with SW5, ported head, lightened flywheel etc I noticed that many of the fins on the old standard rad were bent or missing. What is the recommendation for a replacement for road/occasional track use?



#2 DeadSquare

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 09:34 PM

Go for a copper replacement, not alluminium.



#3 Anthony30

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 09:43 PM

Most people use a minispares 2 core radiator. :highfive:



#4 nicklouse

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Posted 17 November 2018 - 10:55 PM

before you change get some cleaner in the engine to get an crud out of the engine. then after flushing fit new rad.



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Posted 18 November 2018 - 08:09 AM

out of interest why copper against alloy, longevity?



#6 Minigman

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:10 AM

In all the minis I’ve had I’ve fitted the Minispares 2 core. Never had a single overheating issue after fitting.

Copper dissipates heat better than alloy I think?

Edited by Minigman, 18 November 2018 - 09:11 AM.


#7 Shep76S

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:11 AM

I’m guessing better heat transfer

#8 Spider

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 09:53 AM

Some info here on this topic

 

http://www.theminifo...radiator-fluid/



#9 Chris.Williams

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Posted 18 November 2018 - 07:19 PM

There are a lot of cheap alloy radiators out there, they seem to spring leaks for no real reason, maybe it’s the ‘cheap’ part......2 core minispares copper.
The more I looked into it, the more I found this answer, from 850 to 1380 turbos, 2 core.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 10:48 AM

I have a Fletcher alloy rad in my estate, it doesn't get hot like it used to.

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Posted 19 November 2018 - 11:06 AM

Thermex alloy rad for me, (think minispares now sell these, british made) .  Minispares 2 core just didnt cut it in traffic (even with leccy fan) on my hot spec 1312 & 1380. 



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Posted 19 November 2018 - 05:24 PM

Here in the Midwest US where we can have temps over 100* (40*C ) in summer on a regular basis, a 2 core just won't cut it. I've had terrific luck running an inexpensive ($60, shipped) 2 core aluminum Chinese made radiator. I've had them for 4 years now with no issues, and my car never runs above "normal" even on long runs on the highway on 100* + days. 

 

I'm sure it's different in England where it doesn't get as hot as here.



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Posted 19 November 2018 - 05:32 PM

I've been very happy with the performance of my Radtech alloy rad.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 04:09 AM

I have a Chinese alloy radiator in my car (high performance 1293 engine). It coped with the heat in Indonesia for 2 years as well as Australian summers (+40 C on occasions) with no problems at all. There is nothing wrong with a good quality aluminium radiator...



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Posted 21 November 2018 - 07:39 AM

I have a Chinese alloy radiator in my car (high performance 1293 engine). It coped with the heat in Indonesia for 2 years as well as Australian summers (+40 C on occasions) with no problems at all. There is nothing wrong with a good quality aluminium radiator...

 

I fully agree with you.

 

Unfortunately, probably through ignorance and maybe lack of skill, quite a lot of poor quality alluminium radiators have been sold, claiming to be superior to traditional copper ones.

 

What is wrong with the poor quality ones?  The material can be an incorrect gauge or specification, the workman ship is pretty good these days, but if you get a duff one, it means a replacement, and too many of them were made by enthusiasts who didn't know about, or get right, the water / air flow ratio, which they got away with in cool climates or at speed, but under perform in heavy urban traffic.

 

While we are on the subject:-

 

If you have the time, gurgle "honeycomb radiators".  There a couple of jolly interesting videos of an Australian guy making a replacement 1930's radiator.






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