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#1 Spackaveli32

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 02:55 AM

Can somebody please tell me how to take this apart? The Haynes manual and everything online looks completely different.

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#2 Moke Spider

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 04:45 AM

What you have there is an Automatic Engine / Gearbox and as such, it don't have a conventional Flywheel and nor does it have a Clutch, that part we can see in your Photographs is the Torque Converter, that's why it looks different.

 

Sadly, I can see too that all 6 of the hub bolts have been removed and as a result, has ruined the unit.

 

You need a Torque Converter Puller to remove it from the End of the Crankshaft. Some Flywheel pullers can also be used if they have holes in the right spacing.

 

Be aware, that these engines are slightly different to their manual counterparts to the point were you cannot fit a Manual Gearbox to it without carrying out some conversion work to the engine block itself.



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 05:55 AM

Moke , thank you for the quick reply. I am slowing learning about this mini. Hopefully, I didn’t ruin the converter. I removed the bolts thinking this would help with the removal.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 06:02 AM

Moke, how Can I tell if my converter is ruined?

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 08:04 AM

Moke, how Can I tell if my converter is ruined?

 

The bolts hold in critical alignment all the internal bits of the Torque Converter. You can tell that it's ruined as the bolts have all been removed.

 

The workshop manuals all state to only ever remove 3 of those bolts (every 2nd bolt) at any one time.

 

As far as I am aware, they are not repairable once this occurs.

 

Here's the scantest bit of advice in the Factory Manual;-

 

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:20 AM

As above the torque converter is trash. A new or used one will be needed. They are assembled and then welded up which is why you only remove three bolts as you can not reassemble them. It is covered in your Haynes manual if you knew it was an auto set up.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 12:33 PM

As above the torque converter is trash. A new or used one will be needed. They are assembled and then welded up which is why you only remove three bolts as you can not reassemble them. It is covered in your Haynes manual if you knew it was an auto set up.

 

There is a chance that it could be repaired.  Twenty five years ago, there was an old chap at either Stourport or Stourbridge who used to recondition Torque converters for Massey Ferguson bulldozers, so the skill was there, once. 



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 07:28 PM

Try asking guessworks if it’s possible

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 07:57 PM

Try asking guessworks if it’s possible


And he will say it is FUBAR.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 12:49 AM

I definitely messed this up. Thanks for all the help everybody. Living in Hawaii makes things complicated when trying to get parts.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 05:17 AM

If your mini is rust free and has a potentially long life ahead of it then I would seriously consider changing the set up to a manual - autos are a waste of time in a mini, under powered and high maintenance. Search this forum and you will learn what is required to convert.

 

Good luck and enjoy the surfing.



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Posted 03 January 2019 - 07:01 AM

A manual may not be a option for him, you don’t know his circumstances.

I would expect that getting a replacement torque converter may not be too difficult, other than expensive engine postage to your location. Many people do convert autos so there could be a few secondhand ones kicking about, you just need to make sure they have been removed correctly. As r commended earlier, drop a note to Guessworks - he’s the most likely to be able to help you track something down.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 09:56 AM

Thanks all. I have been leaning towards a manual swap for a while. I will definitely do some research before diving straight into it.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 05:06 PM

As you may already know, there are a few Mini Parts suppliers on the Mainland in the US, there's also a few in Canada too, if that helps?






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