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#1 Dirtyscamp

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Posted 28 January 2019 - 03:37 PM

Hi, newbie alert. Any pics of rollcages on Scamps please? Give me some ideas. Cheers

#2 Moke Spider

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Posted 31 January 2019 - 10:17 PM

Have you had a look at Hubba's ACE Desert Rat AMC?
 

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Thread here;-

 

http://www.theminifo...rt-rat-sleeper/

 

I make my own for our Mokes, but they look really odd when topless.



#3 Moke Spider

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Posted 02 February 2019 - 05:25 AM

Here's one currently in the works, not yet finished, but I think you get the idea,,,

 

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Posted 03 March 2019 - 01:02 AM

Excellent design on that Moke!  That forward portion looks like you could fasten a temporary bikini top, like the old Jeeps have?

Just enough to keep the sun off.  Hope to see more pics as that one comes together!  -J



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Posted 25 March 2019 - 01:56 AM

Excellent design on that Moke!  That forward portion looks like you could fasten a temporary bikini top, like the old Jeeps have?

Just enough to keep the sun off.  Hope to see more pics as that one comes together!  -J

 

Thanks for the kind comments !

 

Sorry I've been slow responding with a reply. I only have these photos in the Office and while here, this is one thing I forget to come back to.

 

This one is the 'next off the line', showing the completed Cage

 

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Posted 26 March 2019 - 12:12 AM

I don't know how much flex there might be in an original Moke body, but this design should eliminate most all of it. -Very slick indeed. In rougher

terrain, does the windscreen frame have enough "beef" to do its part as well?  or does it gain assistance from everything behind it?



#7 4XMOKE

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Posted 27 March 2019 - 07:00 PM

Dirtyscamp

It's a bit tricky to effectively mount a cage on a Scamp because they're not monocoque construction and are therefore difficult to spread the loads on, that's why Andrew Maclean built in the double hoops of the Mk3 into the frame.

If you can mount at junctions of section, so much the better. Emulating what Spider has done here will stiffen the Scamp no end and make the suspension work rather than twist the frame. I can vouch first hand that Spider's Moke is as stiff as hell and works exceptionally well over rough terrain, and at speed.



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Posted 04 April 2019 - 06:27 PM

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Posted 06 April 2019 - 07:03 PM

I don't know how much flex there might be in an original Moke body, but this design should eliminate most all of it. -Very slick indeed. In rougher

terrain, does the windscreen frame have enough "beef" to do its part as well?  or does it gain assistance from everything behind it?

 

In regards to Torsional Strength (resistance to twisting) the Mini is very good as it only has 2 door openings, it a short shell and importantly, has a roof. You really need a lot of load and then some to twist a Mini Body Shell (that is in good condition).

 

A Moke Body Shell on the other hand is pretty much a flat sheet of paper in comparison. There are a few strengthening sections built in to them that does make them surprisingly strong, but as they are made up from spot welded sheet sections that are small in section, the loadings that end up on these are huge in normal use and so after a while, the bodies do crack around these spot welds (though, more often than not, they rust out before that happens).

 

These Roll Cages that I've spent some time designing and refining do add considerably to the Torsional Strength of the bodies as 4X Moke has touched on and extends the life of these cars considerably as well as giving a more sure footed ride & improved handling. They are much much more than a 'roll cage'. The Windscreen frame you can see here is not the original one but one that is part of the Roll Cage.






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