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#1 JakesTe

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 02:45 PM

Hello,

First of all, I did a search but couldn't find the answer, so I am sorry if this has already been answered! :whistling:

 

So I am planning to lower my mini but i don't want to tubb the fenders if i can avoid it...

Can you guys tell me how low you can go without cutting the metal?

 

And how close you can get your wheels to the fender without the tire rubbing?

I am using 10 inch wheels if that makes a difference...

Thanks!



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 02:51 PM

depends on many things. like how many people you plan on carrying and what wheels and tyres.

 

and again it depends on many things. wheel diameter means nothing.

 

much more info needed.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 02:54 PM

10" wheels but how wide???

 

I run 4.5" Cooper S steel rims with 165 profile tires. These rub on the rear arch edge under hard cornering. Very slightly lowered and i mean slightly.

 

When there is two people in the car and i corner hard it rubs but normal day to day driving its fine. Thats with new standard shocks and cones. I have now bought Protech adjustable shocks so hopefully along with all of the suspension components being upgraded and renewed it will not be as bad. The car in question is my Blue Clubman Paddy.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 03:54 PM

Shocks can't cure a rubbing problem on cornering. Only tubbing or increasing spring rate or ride height can do that.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:18 PM

depends on many things. like how many people you plan on carrying and what wheels and tyres.

 

and again it depends on many things. wheel diameter means nothing.

 

much more info needed.

Ok so, 10X6 wheels on yokohama's

I have group 5 flares and will be spacing the wheels to fill the flares...

And rarely will have more than 2 passengers.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:19 PM

true but they can make rubbing worse if there is too much control causing the wheel to jack up the shock.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:23 PM

 

depends on many things. like how many people you plan on carrying and what wheels and tyres.

 

and again it depends on many things. wheel diameter means nothing.

 

much more info needed.

Ok so, 10X6 wheels on yokohama's

I have group 5 flares and will be spacing the wheels to fill the flares...

And rarely will have more than 2 passengers.

 

then you are quite limited as the tyre will rub on the seam first so not much change from a couple of inches static clearance but if the rubbers are new or softer you could need more. old hard/deformed rubbers move less so you can get away with less.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:31 PM

 

 

depends on many things. like how many people you plan on carrying and what wheels and tyres.

 

and again it depends on many things. wheel diameter means nothing.

 

much more info needed.

Ok so, 10X6 wheels on yokohama's

I have group 5 flares and will be spacing the wheels to fill the flares...

And rarely will have more than 2 passengers.

 

then you are quite limited as the tyre will rub on the seam first so not much change from a couple of inches static clearance but if the rubbers are new or softer you could need more. old hard/deformed rubbers move less so you can get away with less.

 

Yes i have new rubber cones... 

So call me picky, i know, but i was hoping that if i ever hit a pothole or something that the wheel would hit the metal fender first rather that the arch so that it would not mess it up! so if i tubbed the fenders that wont really work i guess because i want wide stance... unless there is some magical solution to that! :ermm:

 

And i was hoping to have like a 1 inch or so gap between the wheel and arch and have the wheels flush with the arch, so basically for this you are saying there is no other way than to do tubbing?



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 04:48 PM

if this helps this picture shows the fitment i am going for...

sorry, this is my first mini, i know the look i am going for but don't have the knowledge and experience so your help is much appreciated!

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 05:32 PM

if this helps this picture shows the fitment i am going for...

sorry, this is my first mini, i know the look i am going for but don't have the knowledge and experience so your help is much appreciated!

 

Do you really want it that low?  It is not good for overtaking, a cat's eye has bent the number plate.



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 06:10 PM

 

if this helps this picture shows the fitment i am going for...

sorry, this is my first mini, i know the look i am going for but don't have the knowledge and experience so your help is much appreciated!

 

Do you really want it that low?  It is not good for overtaking, a cat's eye has bent the number plate.

 

haha!

or like this... i've seen a lot that are this low, so i thought it wouldn't be a problem...

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 06:16 PM

10" wheels but how wide???

 

I run 4.5" Cooper S steel rims with 165 profile tires. These rub on the rear arch edge under hard cornering. Very slightly lowered and i mean slightly.

 

When there is two people in the car and i corner hard it rubs but normal day to day driving its fine. Thats with new standard shocks and cones. I have now bought Protech adjustable shocks so hopefully along with all of the suspension components being upgraded and renewed it will not be as bad. The car in question is my Blue Clubman Paddy.

haha, i assume you are not talking about this setup lol :teehee:

q5uHQfu.jpg



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 06:20 PM

 

10" wheels but how wide???

 

I run 4.5" Cooper S steel rims with 165 profile tires. These rub on the rear arch edge under hard cornering. Very slightly lowered and i mean slightly.

 

When there is two people in the car and i corner hard it rubs but normal day to day driving its fine. Thats with new standard shocks and cones. I have now bought Protech adjustable shocks so hopefully along with all of the suspension components being upgraded and renewed it will not be as bad. The car in question is my Blue Clubman Paddy.

haha, i assume you are not talking about this setup lol :teehee:

q5uHQfu.jpg

 

 

Thats the very latest in mini suspension!!!! Takes ages to set that up :D  :D  :D



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Posted 07 March 2019 - 07:06 PM

You'll need to cut the front wings and front panel if you're running that low with 6 x 10's filling gp5 arches

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Posted 07 March 2019 - 07:10 PM

 

 

if this helps this picture shows the fitment i am going for...

sorry, this is my first mini, i know the look i am going for but don't have the knowledge and experience so your help is much appreciated!

 

Do you really want it that low?  It is not good for overtaking, a cat's eye has bent the number plate.

 

haha!

or like this... i've seen a lot that are this low, so i thought it wouldn't be a problem...

 

that will have had quite a bit of metal cut away under the flare/arch.







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