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#1 chilli1

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:18 PM

Hi All,

 

As the title says really, I currently have these 12x6" wheels and group 2 wide arches, I'd like to switch to 10x6s but I don't want to change the arches or trash the handling trying to fill the relatively wide arches.

 

I'm aware I'll need to change my brake setup at the front, planning to do this with the Minispares kit,  does the smaller disc affect stopping power significantly?

 

Ideally I'd like to stick with mini-lite style wheels, but I'm not averse to Revolutions.

 

I need to fill the arches (width wise) which looking at Steveed's mini the revolutions will do despite their ET05 offset.

 

Minispares sell some rather nice minilite style wheels here:  http://www.minispare...C-21A1902A.aspx but is ET-15 going to adversely affect handling? (currently ET03) I'm not sure what they mean by "This gives 4.25" outer wheel edge from hub face" is that from the face of the wheel or the actual hub on the car?

 

Minisport sell JBW versions with a ET-7 offset (https://www.minispor...lished-rim.html) I prefer the look (and quality) of the ones from Minispares but are these going to work better?

 

 

All help greatly appreciated (and pictures if anyone has a similar setup).

 

Thanks

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:16 PM

6x10 'S' offset genuine minilites here on KAD 7.9" vented discs and super minifin drums. Old special tuning group 2 wide arches.

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:33 PM

https://konigwheels....sets-explained/

Offset-diagram.gif

so your current wheels have an ET of 3 and the Mini spares ones have an ET of -15 so your wheels will move inboard by 18mm

 

this can be useful so you can see what is going on.

https://www.willtheyfit.com/



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Posted 30 April 2019 - 01:50 PM

https://konigwheels....sets-explained/
Offset-diagram.gif
so your current wheels have an ET of 3 and the Mini spares ones have an ET of -15 so your wheels will move inboard by 18mm

this can be useful so you can see what is going on.
https://www.willtheyfit.com/


Haven't you got that back to front, looks like a negative offset will make the wheels stick out further?

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Posted 30 April 2019 - 04:16 PM

Yes it should move the wheel out by 18mm,  I was wondering if this significantly affects handling or if it isn't too noticeable?

 

Thanks for the pictures imack, that is the look I want but I think my arches are wider than those and I doubt the holes line up for me to swap.

 

 

 

 

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#6 luismx123

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Posted 01 May 2019 - 03:29 PM

JBW w8s 5.5x10s with 160s on them. The w8s are ET 0 I believe. Im also using an 8mm spacer between the front discs and rear drums to get them to fill the minisport group 2 wide arches. 

So if you used a 6x10 with ET0 and no spacers, youd be around 4-5mil further out than mine, which would just clear. 

I had to camber them in slightly as in austira, the TÜV is slighty more strict than in the UK

Hope this helps
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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:38 PM

I've got 12 by 6 superlites on mine with standard Group 2 arches and that little silver thingy along the edge. It all fits, I just have a cheeky little tire poke which makes it ever so slightly impolite and rude but not enough for it to be an issue in civilized society.



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Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:56 PM

 

https://konigwheels....sets-explained/
Offset-diagram.gif
so your current wheels have an ET of 3 and the Mini spares ones have an ET of -15 so your wheels will move inboard by 18mm

this can be useful so you can see what is going on.
https://www.willtheyfit.com/


Haven't you got that back to front, looks like a negative offset will make the wheels stick out further?

 

No I think Nicklouse is right, if you move the centre of the wheel outwards then when its bolted to the car the rim has actually moved inwards.



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Posted 18 May 2019 - 05:36 PM

 

 

https://konigwheels....sets-explained/
Offset-diagram.gif
so your current wheels have an ET of 3 and the Mini spares ones have an ET of -15 so your wheels will move inboard by 18mm

this can be useful so you can see what is going on.
https://www.willtheyfit.com/


Haven't you got that back to front, looks like a negative offset will make the wheels stick out further?

 

No I think Nicklouse is right, if you move the centre of the wheel hub mounting face outwards relative to the wheel centre line then when its bolted to the car the rim has actually moved inwards.

 

 

fixed that for you, and that would be increasing positive offset

 

in this case the OP is considering a move from ET03 to ET-15, so using the diagrams above the mounting face moves from 3mm to the right of the wheel centre line, to 15mm to the left of the centreline, a total of 18mm to the left, the effect of which (..all other things being equal..) is to shift the rim 18mm to the right....i think






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