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#1 davecrook1

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 08:44 PM

I just need a little help. Bought a mini and just putting the loom back in the check the engine.

I’m trying to figure out the starter solenoid wires and also a plastic connector left over that I’ve no clue where that goes

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 08:45 PM

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Posted 09 June 2019 - 09:23 PM

The red/white wire is a starter trigger wire that needs to go to the large spade terminal on the (pre engaged) starter solenoid.

You seem to be missing the battery positive wire at the starter. Also check that the solenoid and inner wing mating faces are clean as the solenoid needs earthed.

The plastic connection is for the windscreen washer pump

Edited by cal844, 09 June 2019 - 09:36 PM.


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Posted 09 June 2019 - 09:27 PM

Assuming the black cable is going to the starter motor ,you appear to be missing the battery cable which goes on the nut on the right.

The Red/ white cable goes on the spade in the center,

The connector is fir the windscreen washer motor



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Posted 10 June 2019 - 02:52 PM

Thank you. I have two centre spade connectors on the starter solenoid. Which one does it go on? The one facing the grill or the other facing the bulkhead.
The positive from the battery is yet to be fitted. Just hoping then brown wires are in the right place too.

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 03:41 PM

The large one at the bulkhead side

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:17 PM

There is a large connector on the solenoid, but one of the brown wires has a wide connector on and I guessed that’s where it’s supposed to go. whereas the red/white wire has a smaller standard connector on. On the starter solenoid there are four spade fittings.. and I only have three wires. A wide brown, a normal width brown and normal width red/white.
Sorry to sound like a right amateur but just want to make sure I get it right before adding any power from the battery.

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 06:39 PM

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Hope you can see this image. You can see the solenoid better in this one the thick brown wire along with the thinner one has an eyelet connector which imresume bolts down with the battery input side of the solenoid

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Posted 10 June 2019 - 10:28 PM

That appears to be the wrong solenoid for your car but it will work. As the clutch is non verto your mini is  an A series and will not have a ballast coil which is connected to the extra spade on your solenoid..

All the brown wires and battery cable go to the right terminal.

White and red goes to one of the middle spades. I'm pretty sure its the smaller spade.

 

What year and model is the car? I have never seen the brake pipes run that way before.



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Posted 11 June 2019 - 07:39 AM

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Pic of mine - all brown and the battery positive live red wires go to post on the left, black starter cable post on the right and white/red starter wire to bottom spade in the middle of pic.

 

[clutch overthrow nuts still to be fitted :D ]

 

As stated above make sure there is a good earth between the solenoid bracket and the body of the side panel.


Edited by Rorf, 11 June 2019 - 07:42 AM.


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Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:05 AM

Thanks for the help guys. Really apprecIate it.
The car is a 72 but has a metro turbo engine In it. It’s had mods along the way but the previous owner.
Had a remote servo which I’ve removed and I’ll fit a dual master cylinder instead.
Not sure about the brake pipes up front. Just assumed that’s how they should be. Guessing not now

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Posted 11 June 2019 - 11:56 AM

It's generally easier to do the wiring to the car, there's not much in the way of electrics on an old engine.

The first A+ engines predate the Verto clutch and you can find any combination of clutch and starter motor too. Though I think all Metty Turbos had pre-engaged starters (your remote solenoid is correct for the car that will have had an inertia starter)

Looks like you've got the wiring sorted, as stated the red/white operates the solenoid to turn the starter and goes on a spade connector below the screw screw terminals. Some solenoids have another spade on the other side, it's for the ballast ignition bypass which is a yellow/white wire. Your '72 car won't have had ballasted ignition. If the turbo engine has its original electronic distributor it'll match the plain white 12v supply on the car but it does need the compatible coil GCL143, or equivalent.


Another thing, a '72 mini wouldn't have electric screen wash. so something has been altered, might even be the registration and VIN plates!






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