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#1 Grbbongo

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 09:34 PM

Hi all. Hopefully attempting to fit lightened flywheel and new drop gears to already installed engine. Could you please tell me how I lock/Jam the gears to allow me to remove the input gear at the bottom?
Thanks in advance.

#2 nicklouse

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 09:50 PM

So engine is in the car and you have already pulled the flywheel and taken the transfer case off?

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 10:03 PM

Yes engine is in car. I’ve not yet started to dismantle. Just researching before I do. I read elsewhere that you need to lock the gears to undo the input shaft bolt?

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Posted 19 July 2019 - 11:40 PM

Oh so you have done nothing yet.

Pull the engine and split it off the box. You will need to measure the thrust shim clearance on the idler as well. And that is impossible with the block on the box.

Again Haynes workshop manual.

All covered in there. And yes.

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:06 AM

So..How do I lock the gears? Is it n the manual? Also I won’t need to set clearances on idler as fitting the MED roller bearing type.

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:19 AM

You need to lock the gearbox into 1st and 4th gears, to do this rotate the selector rod anti clockwise so that it disengages from the bell crank levers, you will now be able to engage 1st and 4th gears. Hope that helps ??

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:48 AM

You need to lock the gearbox into 1st and 4th gears, to do this rotate the selector rod anti clockwise so that it disengages from the bell crank levers, you will now be able to engage 1st and 4th gears. Hope that helps

Ok thanks. Am I right in assuming this can only be done with the box split from the block?

#8 unburntfuelinthemorning

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 06:56 AM

 

You need to lock the gearbox into 1st and 4th gears, to do this rotate the selector rod anti clockwise so that it disengages from the bell crank levers, you will now be able to engage 1st and 4th gears. Hope that helps

Ok thanks. Am I right in assuming this can only be done with the box split from the block?

 

Yes, the block and gearbox need to be split in able to engage 1st and fourth gears in the manner described.

 

As mentioned the Haynes Workshop Manual describes this in step by step detail as well as the correct way to remove the flywheel, and how to set the idler gear clearance, and torque wrench settings.



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Posted 20 July 2019 - 07:35 AM

Can be done insitu, someone posted it on here recently but I can't find the post. Here's the video they linked to.

https://youtu.be/UuV8z91B_kg

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 09:36 AM

Can be done insitu, someone posted it on here recently but I can't find the post. Here's the video they linked to.

https://youtu.be/UuV8z91B_kg

Yes I’ve just been in contact with him. Very helpful, and has given me instructions to make the tool using an old clutch plate etc. Thanks all.

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Posted 20 July 2019 - 10:01 AM

The nut can be a lot harder to undo. I think I'd still prefer to pull the engine and split the box from it. There's a better guarantee of success and you get the opportunity to inspect and service everything.



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Posted 20 July 2019 - 11:24 AM

Oh boy; have fun.



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Posted 06 January 2020 - 07:02 PM

Any advice or tricks on how to lock an A+ box/drop gears in order to toque up the input nut? The gearbox was supplied built and is now back under the engine so the option of engaging two gears is not viable.



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Posted 06 January 2020 - 07:55 PM

Watch "Fitting drop gears with engine in car classic mini, how to torque up input gear nut" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/UuV8z91B_kg

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Posted 06 January 2020 - 09:59 PM

Watch "Fitting drop gears with engine in car classic mini, how to torque up input gear nut" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/UuV8z91B_kg

 

I've looked at that but as the engine and box are on the bench it's going to be easier to take it all apart, lock the box up etc. I was just looking for a way of not having to take out a professional installed diff. etc. I'm concerned about keeping it all oil tight. Still, I've got plenty of Hylomar, so, that's tomorrow's schedule fixed!






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