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#1 Screwdriver

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 10:18 AM

When I'm not driving my Classic Mini 35, I'm in my classic Mercedes diesel driving on the highway. A few months ago, I noticed the signs on fueling pumps that state "Up to 7% Biodiesel". Fed up of the dirty reputation diesel has, I began researching the reason for this limit and the safe tolerances for increasing Biodiesel %. As it turns out, you could easily triple the biodiesel content with zero negative impact to any diesel engine on the roads today while reducing pollution substantially (see below for details). Oil companies won't do this as it's against their vested interests.

 

So, I went ahead and did something about it - I petitioned parliament. Would be great if you could take a minute and jump on board and sign it. All diesel sold should be at a 20% blend, to make a dent in atmospheric carbon emissions and to reduce our oil imports. As side note, diesel engines really benefit from the cleaning properties of biodiesel.

 

 

Petition: Ensure fuel retailers sell only B20 biodiesel, given its environmental benefits

 

My petition:

 

Ensure fuel retailers sell only B20 biodiesel, given its environmental benefits

 

Following the 2015 Greater London Authority's report on Biodiesel, government must act urgently to ensure only B20 biodiesel is retailed, given its several environmental and economic benefits achievable today with zero negative impact to current vehicular technology or existing UK fuel distribution.

 

Biodiesel has a positive effect on net emissions as the production of vegetable oil is renewable. A B20 blend achieves a 10-15 per cent CO2 reduction over diesel. Particulate, sulphates, carbon monoxide and hydrocarbon emissions are also reduced. At B20 blends, vehicular performance, serviceability or reliability is not impacted negatively. For more details, visit the GLA's report here:

 

https://www.london.g...june_2015_0.pdf


Edited by Screwdriver, 05 September 2019 - 10:19 AM.


#2 Bobbins

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 11:14 AM

That's fine if you're running an old classic diesel but my understanding is that there are issues with newer common-rail cars, I believe to do with the pipes in the fuel system. My daily driver was a little too expensive to go using a high biodiesel content fuel which the manufacturer specifically says I shouldn't. Also, and only from what I've read, running higher biodiesel content fuel is less fuel efficient by 5 - 10% which has an impact on the perceived emissions benefits.

 

I do 25,000 miles/year at 50+ mpg and advances in petrol vehicles and newer technologies mean that when I change it I'm much less likely to buy a diesel than I was last time round, there's now realistic greener alternatives for higher mileage drivers. Quite honestly if you're mostly city based (eg. in London), unless it's an old classic you should be aiming to swap to a 100% electric vehicle in time .... black cabs would be a good start!



#3 Algordo1100

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 11:18 AM

I ran my 190D for several thousand miles on cooking oil straight from the wholesalers. No modifications. No problems.

#4 Midas Mk1

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 11:29 AM

Its a 3:1 ratio of water needed  to make ethanol - not good.

 

Ethanol rots fuel lines.. I use v power only, and try to avoid any high blends of ethanol. 



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Posted 05 September 2019 - 12:13 PM

When I'm not driving my Classic Mini 35, I'm in my classic Mercedes diesel driving on the highway. A few months ago, I noticed the signs on fueling pumps that state "Up to 7% Biodiesel". Fed up of the dirty reputation diesel has, I began researching the reason for this limit and the safe tolerances for increasing Biodiesel %. As it turns out, you could easily triple the biodiesel content with zero negative impact to any diesel engine on the roads today while reducing pollution substantially (see below for details). Oil companies won't do this as it's against their vested interests.

 

So, I went ahead and did something about it - I petitioned parliament.  Would be great if you could take a minute to jump on my board and sign it . All diesel sold should be at a 20% blend, to make a dent in atmospheric carbon emissions and to reduce our oil imports. As side note, diesel engines really benefit from the cleaning properties of biodiesel.

 

 

Petition: Ensure fuel retailers sell only B20 biodiesel, given its environmental benefits

 

My petition:

 

Ensure fuel retailers sell only B20 biodiesel, given its environmental benefits

 

Following the 2015 Greater London Authority's report on Biodiesel, government must act urgently to ensure only B20 biodiesel is retailed, given its several environmental and economic benefits achievable today with zero negative impact to current vehicular technology or existing UK fuel distribution.

 

Biodiesel has a positive effect on net emissions as the production of vegetable oil is renewable. A B20 blend achieves a 10-15 per cent CO2 reduction over diesel. Particulate, sulphates, carbon monoxide and hydrocarbon emissions are also reduced. At B20 blends, vehicular performance, serviceability or reliability is not impacted negatively. For more details, visit the GLA's report here:

 

https://www.london.g...june_2015_0.pdf

 

NO  IT  WOULDN'T !

 

The EU thought it would be great.   As a result, thousands of square miles of the Orangutang's jungle has been burnt and planted with palm oil, just so that the EU can feel good.



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Posted 05 September 2019 - 02:23 PM

Please read the London Authority’s study. B20 blend has zero impact on anything in a modern engine including sensors, pipes, hoses etc. (B100 does).

No rainforests getting destroyed here - the 20% blend can be sourced domestically from waste produce if needed. B15 blend biodiesel is already available at filling stations in parts of the country. 


Edited by Screwdriver, 05 September 2019 - 04:51 PM.


#7 unburntfuelinthemorning

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Posted 05 September 2019 - 05:15 PM

Many of us on this forum are helping the environment by repairing and using old vehicles rather than buying something new and throwing it away in a few years time. 



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Posted 05 September 2019 - 08:17 PM

:) Same here! The goal for this petition is (hopefully) to drive parliamentary debate on what the safest % blend for biodiesel is and then to adopt it nationally as a stepping stone to pure electric propulsion. I'm not wed to 20% but am yet to find any evidence that B20 is harmful. 

 

Thanks for your support! 



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Posted 05 September 2019 - 11:17 PM

After posting about B20 biodiesel, it struck me that some Mini owners may actually care about reducing our carbon footprint. After looking up providers like Octopus, I recently signed up for Bulb Energy, which supplies green electricity and gas. While I'm no expert, I was impressed to see our monthly bills drop by ~25% (vs. EDF energy and British Gas who we used before)

 

Makes me wonder how a London based energy startup with a slick app and great customer service can provide clean energy at such a relatively low price and when the big six energy companies don't? I've since referred my social circle. Each referral gets £50. If you'd like a referral link, please PM me or click above.

 






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