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#1 sam138

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 09:30 PM

Hi,

I’m due to collect my new MSE 4 cylinder head from minispares tomorrow with a set of 1.5 high lift rockers.
Any idea on torque/ bhp increase on below spec please ?

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#2 nicklouse

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Posted 09 September 2019 - 09:36 PM

what CR did it have and what was the head CC?



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 09:27 AM

So long as you set the compression ratio to around 10:1 or slightly higher and run on 98 ron petrol, you will get a reasonable gain. 

However, the gains will be limited by virtue of the fact that you are retaining the standard and very mild camshaft. That spec of head and induction/exhaust system really needs at least an MG Metro/Kent 266 or similar to release the potential of the head and induction/ex. systems.

The offset rockers will help a bit and if asked to guess I would think around 80 to 83-ish bhp with some increase in mid-range torque.



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Posted 10 September 2019 - 07:14 PM

Thanks for the reply’s. Working it out the old head had 23cc and about 9.6 and the new head has 21.4cc with about 10.1 compression

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 09:04 AM

Would it be worth the time and effect removing the engine for a cam change ? Looking at the minispares evolution cam. Would I get into the 90bhp range with this ? My main focus is the torque.

https://www.minispar...OLUTION001.aspx

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Posted 26 January 2020 - 10:14 PM

Would it be worth the time and effect removing the engine for a cam change ? Looking at the minispares evolution cam. Would I get into the 90bhp range with this ? My main focus is the torque.

https://www.minispar...OLUTION001.aspx

Doubt you will get 90bhp. to be honest your current spec is doing well to reach the figure it is now. I think a cam change definitely makes the A series more lively though. Gi for something where it gives you the most useable power. The 266 cam is excellent for this but I have heard that people are getting good results from the evo 1 cam from minispares.

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Posted 27 January 2020 - 01:10 PM

Would it be worth the time and effect removing the engine for a cam change ? Looking at the minispares evolution cam. Would I get into the 90bhp range with this ? My main focus is the torque.

https://www.minispar...OLUTION001.aspx

Have fitted a 1380 MiniSpares short motor with the EVO1 cam and the MSE4 head to a Midas. Nice exhaust note. Behaves well goes well and does not need the high lift rockers.



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Posted 28 January 2020 - 02:23 PM


Would it be worth the time and effect removing the engine for a cam change ? Looking at the minispares evolution cam. Would I get into the 90bhp range with this ? My main focus is the torque.

https://www.minispar...OLUTION001.aspx

Have fitted a 1380 MiniSpares short motor with the EVO1 cam and the MSE4 head to a Midas. Nice exhaust note. Behaves well goes well and does not need the high lift rockers.

I did that spec from minispares a few years ago, went lovely I must say




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