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#1 sonscar

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Posted 22 October 2019 - 08:16 AM

My son bought this car 17 years ago fitted with freshly filled oversills fot its new MOT.He has just given it to me as with two small children he cannot afford to run it.Attached File  002.JPG   83.45K   3 downloadsAttached File  004.JPG   45.2K   4 downloadsAttached File  008.JPG   76.03K   1 downloadsAttached File  009.JPG   71.22K   2 downloads.The original sills had been removed and rust treatment applied but it is evident that the double skinned overlap received none of this and was very rusty.As this car was his daily and lived outside it has lasted 17 years like this,longer than some did from new.Cutting out and repair to follow.Steve



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Posted 25 October 2019 - 08:23 AM

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Posted 25 October 2019 - 12:21 PM

replacement startedAttached File  001.JPG   52.55K   1 downloadsAttached File  002.JPG   46.41K   1 downloadsAttached File  003.JPG   55.07K   0 downloadsAttached File  005.JPG   28.76K   0 downloadsAttached File  007.JPG   43.98K   1 downloadsAttached File  011.JPG   32.68K   2 downloads

some finishing welds over the screwholes and ready to paint.Next the other side.Steve



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Posted 29 October 2019 - 08:32 AM

Whilst the door was off I saw this fat patch on the door post,rust between a double skin.Almost tempted to ignore it but I had to poke it.Attached File  001.JPG   64.85K   1 downloadsAttached File  002.JPG   64.93K   1 downloadsAttached File  003.JPG   63.88K   0 downloadsAttached File  005.JPG   71.72K   0 downloads

Looks like someone had been here before.Will repair today.Steve..



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Posted 30 October 2019 - 09:29 AM

patch welded in ready to dress down.I would like to paint the repairs but it is cold and I cannot find the drive to do it yet,so will epoxy primer it and wait for paint until the other sill is done.Attached File  001.JPG   56.12K   1 downloads



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Posted 31 October 2019 - 09:16 AM

Passenger side sill and an old repair that I did is going to cause me some more effort.When rust between the oversill and floor burst through in several places I cut the affected floor and the inner sill to the doorstep out.I cut the oversill to  the pressed flutes and welded the together almost like a proper sill.As the rear was ok I left it at that.Now the rear has burst through so I an going with new sill to first groove and proper outer sill.

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Posted 31 October 2019 - 04:27 PM

I have spent today cutting off the sill and floor.I wish I had not previously made such a good job of a bad repair as it was very difficult to remove the plug welds to deperate the panels.If anyone still thinks oversills are a good idea,think again.Ironically thinking back to my youth it is very possibly because of oversills that so many minis have survived.My experience of MOT welding was:you knew he was doing a poor job and he knew he was doing a poor job but you got your ticket and so tax and you had another 12 months driving.Of course your experience may differ.

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 01:53 PM

When I retired I was not going to repair rusty cars again,that did not last long.Cutting out previously repaired patches is very tedious.

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 03:28 PM

The biggest issue with just removing patches is there in invariably more rot hiding.

Personally I bin the whole panel rather than trying to patch in. Not as time consuming. I started do that on my lads car Project Erm and it soon went to full panel replacement every time.

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Posted 01 November 2019 - 07:38 PM

I understand what you are saying and if I was restoring this car I possibly would replace more.I already have too many cars to look after and I should have moved this one on,but my soft heart made me repair it.It will be a solid sensitive repair as I intend to use it over winter rather than my convertibles.I cut out the patches I previously fitted and will make good with butt welds( hopefully).Thanks for your insight and essential guides.After several MGB restorations working on a Mini is almost relaxing.Steve..

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Posted 04 November 2019 - 12:05 PM

getting there.childminding today so will have day off.

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Posted 13 November 2019 - 09:29 PM

With NEC classic show,wife's car failing mot and water in the garage I have had some time off.Some more.#

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Some more tomorrow hopefully.Steve..



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Posted 15 November 2019 - 04:44 PM

Oh dear!,looks like this little bit is double skinned and has been previously repaired.Will have a think about what to do,whatever will entail more bodywork than I wanted so I will try to minimise the damage whilst executing a suitable repair.

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I wish I had cut a template of the curve before cutting it off,but there is always the other side?



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Posted 17 November 2019 - 10:15 AM

Thanks to sonnik and his excellent photos I made a start

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and a repair for the outer panel

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PS wish I had a pressure washer and cleaned the underside before starting.


Edited by sonscar, 17 November 2019 - 10:21 AM.


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Posted 18 November 2019 - 03:39 PM

quarter panel repaired will primer tonight and fit outer sill tomorrow.

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