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#1 ilmung

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 02:48 PM

I am putting an suzuki gti 1300 in my Mini ( Midas) .

First I would go for solid mounts , but finally I decided to go for rubber mounts everywhere .

But for the rear I am looking for something better than the originals .

I want something which is very rigid but still can move a " little " ...

Are there people with some experience in this matter ?



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Posted 03 February 2020 - 02:54 PM

Well the Mini never had rear mints. The metro version did have rearish mounts. If you are talking about the Suzuki mounts you might be better asking some Suzuki people.

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 03:15 PM

That's a fast reply !

Maybe I did not explained it correctly ,I mean  the subframe rearmounts .

But your remark isn't bad ,  I will have look to the Metro mounts .



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Posted 03 February 2020 - 03:58 PM

Solid mount allround

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 04:08 PM

yes I know it would be better for driving .....but I am afraidr that the GRP ( Midas mini) will wear out very quickly .



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Posted 03 February 2020 - 04:26 PM

That's a fast reply !
Maybe I did not explained it correctly ,I mean the subframe rearmounts .
But your remark isn't bad , I will have look to the Metro mounts .

Metro totally different and not compatible.

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Posted 03 February 2020 - 06:17 PM

Solid mount allround

 

This ^

 

yes I know it would be better for driving .....but I am afraidr that the GRP ( Midas mini) will wear out very quickly .

 

For the very reason that it is GRP I would suggest going solid.

 

Looking at the Mini, Rubber vs Solid Mount, for one thing I see in these pages, the bodies that run Rubber Mounted Frames are prone to cracking of the Toe Board, where as in my own experience with Solid Mounted Frames, this is unheard of.

 

With a Solid Frame Mount, the Body and Frame as as one. Any loading of the Frame is much more equally distributed in to the body, over all the frame mounting points.

 

In regards to Rubber Mounting, as the Frame can move, it can spot load the Mounting Points in the Body. Some Points can cope with this and some cannot. This is why the Toe Boards in Minis crack and it's easy to see why as the Toe Board where it meets the floor is a fairly strong, but inflexible part of the Body, where as the Mounts to the Front Apron are to a fairly flexible part of the body. Also, as the Rubber deteriorate, some Mounting Points will continue to work and other will become lazy, putting more local stress in to those that are working.






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