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#1 human89

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:06 AM

Has a anyone fitted the outside hinges from a mk1 on a mk3+? I'm considering doing this and wanted the groups opinion. I have some rust of the door steps by the a panels and instead of placing it, I thought about welding in something to blank it out and don't mk1 hinges and leather straps so the door won't swing open all the way. Thanks for your opinion

#2 Ethel

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 07:54 AM

It would be a lot more work than just doing the repair. The door skin & A panel would need reinforcing. The geometry is entirely different so you'd need to confirm the door would actually open without fouling (likely it will) and that the hinge fixings wouldn't foul on the frames (less likely).

I'd expect somebody's done it if it's possible too.

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 11:18 AM

I thought about this from time to time.My thoughts were to make a triangular bracket which picked up the original hinge holes and allowed you to drill through the A panel to fit the external hinges.May end up not being close enough to the edge to fit the hinges but would be relatively easy to do and reversable.Same with inside the door.Steve...



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 12:38 PM

The Japanese used to fit external hinges to Mk3+ for retro look (will post some photos later if I can find them), also I remember Mini Magazine did a 'How to' article on modifiying and strengthening the Mk3 A panel for external hinges some years back.



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 05:30 PM

I've not done it, but have seen a car where it was done. Wholly cow !!  As Ethal touched on, it's a lot of work. Because the Arc Centre, through which the door moves through, changes, there are a few places on the trailing edges were it gets too close and I think one place can foul. If you are retaining the MKIII type Door Latches, I think that further complicates the issues.



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Posted 11 February 2020 - 08:04 PM

Japanese Retro Conversion on 1.3i
Very nice example below of a Japanese Retro conversion on a 1998 Rover Mini Cooper 1.3i with air con (don't think Japan ever got the MPI/front rad?).........SU carb, 10" wheels/discs, centre speedo dash, toggle switches, Mk1 indicator/column, wing mirrors, external hinges, door check straps, rounded door corner at "A" panel base, early style full front valance and even sliding windows!
http://www3.wind.ne....per149443-2.htm


Edited by mab01uk, 11 February 2020 - 08:04 PM.


#7 human89

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 09:16 PM

Interesting you would think pick up a set of hinges and give it a go haha.

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 10:39 PM

There is this build on here that’ll show you the work needed to fit mk1 doors in a mk3 onwards shell

http://www.theminifo...-inc-mk1-doors/

As mentioned earlier, John Betts did a how to fit mk1 hinges to a mk3 onwards shell in minimag about 10 or more years ago (it was an orange mini with a flip front). They reinforced the A panels with box section to the original hinge panel. I think the doors were lightened, can’t remember if they were also strengthened

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Posted 11 February 2020 - 10:42 PM

Another TMF thread here with a photo of a finished hinge conversion:-

http://www.theminifo...k1-door-hinges/

 

Converting a MK3 on door to external hinges was covered in Jan 2006 Mini Magazine:-

http://www.theminifo...nge-conversion/

 

https://magazineexch...?keep_https=yes

 


Edited by mab01uk, 11 February 2020 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2020 - 01:44 AM

Sounds like I might avoid it. I'm not a fan of my door stops and also the curtosy light switch plus like the look of the mk1 leather ones better so I might just do that for now. Any thoughts on that

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Posted 12 February 2020 - 08:45 AM

Apart from the front lower edge of the the Mk1/2 doors being round instead of square of Mk3 onwards they are lower approx. 1 cm. The door cutout of the Mk3 onwards side panels are higher accordingly.



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Posted 13 February 2020 - 06:02 PM

This project may be of interest?

http://www.theminifo...-inc-mk1-doors/






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