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#1 CrazyFesi

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Posted 28 September 2020 - 05:45 PM

Hello I am from Germany so I may use the wrong expressions.
I want to change the cones for that I want to remove the fro t upper arms.
I have got a left hand drive. I am trying to remove the retaining plate the outside bolt I am able to get loose but what kind of tool do you use to get to the inside bolt? Cannot seem to get near it from any side.
Would be grateful for any information.

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Posted 28 September 2020 - 06:07 PM

ok lets ID the parts you are having issues with. But it is possible to get the rubber cones out without removing the arm if the cone is compressed enough and the rebound buffer (25) removed.

 

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Posted 28 September 2020 - 07:11 PM

Hello
So I got 28 out and want to change 27
So I am trying to remove 23.
But I cannot get near the inner Bolt of 17.
With the Lhd the gear box is on this side. The outer bolt/screw was no Problem but I cannot find a way to put a spanner on the inner one because the big middle bolt/screw is in the way.

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Posted 28 September 2020 - 07:30 PM

Ok inner bolt 17 you only need to access the bolt as the nut is welded to the subframe unlike the outer one.

you may need to use a small socket set up. 



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Posted 28 September 2020 - 07:33 PM

No real difference between LHD and RHD.

 

That bolt is difficult, I think I used a 1/4” drive 7/16” AF socket on a long extension. Much easier with the radiator out.



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Posted 29 September 2020 - 01:11 PM

Like Nick said one is a captive but the other a but and bolt on both sides.Have fun,Steve..

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Posted 29 September 2020 - 07:26 PM

Hello thanks for the replys
I will have another try tomorrow
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Posted 30 September 2020 - 12:29 PM

Hello
So I got 28 out and want to change 27
So I am trying to remove 23.
But I cannot get near the inner Bolt of 17.
With the Lhd the gear box is on this side. The outer bolt/screw was no Problem but I cannot find a way to put a spanner on the inner one because the big middle bolt/screw is in the way.

If I get you right - what you aim for is to remove the rubber donuts (27) and you have already removed the aluminium cone (28). Right?

That should be possible without removing the top wishbone, altough it a bit fiddly.

How did you actually get the alu cone out, without de-compressing the suspension rubber cone? (usaully this requires a special tool http://www.minispare...ack to search)

Because of corrosion the rubber donut usally sits rather tight in its recess in the subframe. You should knock it out from above, whilst avoiding to ruin the thread.

Apropos: Du kannst mich auch auf Deutsch fragen wenn Dir das leichter fällt. :-)



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Posted 30 September 2020 - 05:45 PM

Hello thanks for all your help.
Tonight an extra long 30cm spanner didthe trick. 1/4 from either front or wheelside would not fit because of thegearbox... Lhd.
Got the cones out and just want to make sure. What you see on the pictureshould be two parts the trumpet and Nr. 31 I think.
Changing the upper arms bearings was no problem but separating 31 from the trumpet did not work toll now. Any good advice??

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Posted 30 September 2020 - 05:53 PM

I still can't see how the gearbox could possibly be in the way, and there is not difference on a LHD car.
But glad you got the bolt out.

 

To remove the knuckle joint from the trumpet, soak it in penetrating fluid such as PlusGas and then use something to knock it out, working from inside the trumpet. 






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