honda B16 B18 kits
Posted 20 February 2007 - 08:53 PM
we looked at the B16 and B18
the kits would be exactly the same just with different engine mountings but big savings would come from
a the cost of the engines is around £1000
a good ECU and loom with exhaust will see 200 bhp and cost £1400 so theres a saving on the civic motor version of a couple of grand
you could run the std ecu and loom from the donor car and std exhaust which would save a further £1400 so in effect a honda v tec mini could come in around
have any of you any thoughts on this
would it be worth us doing the ground work to produce a car
i imagine it would be a nice daily driver with enough poke to put a smile on your face and honda reliability to boot
tell us what you think
Posted 20 February 2007 - 11:38 PM
Posted 21 February 2007 - 12:31 AM
This way a Zcars mini becomes cheaper and more attractive to us! Still enough power and fun to drive!
When will the kit be avalable????
Cheers to you!
Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:26 AM
Lol, where are you sourcing these engines from? Are they rebuilt? The last two b16s I got were both under £300. They were the earlier cable clutch B16a1s though.
I was thinking the same thing. My hydro B16A2 was £500. But if they are rebuilt then its getting somewhere near decent.
Posted 21 February 2007 - 12:49 PM
I think its a great idea, as you know ive built a couple of kit cars , And i have had to work my way up to building a z cars, the first car i built was an m.k indy which i sold for £6500. Making a bit on it i decide to push the budget out a little further and build the cobra, that cost me £11,000 to build (2 years to build) , i sold this for £ 15,000. I was now lucky enough to buy your kit.
As you know their are various kits in the kit car market, most of them offer starter pakages, this is why i was able to "get on the ladder"
I think Westfield sports cars is a good example , they sell/sold good quality kits , but not everyone could afford the name, so they produced the "Westfield SDV" (single donor vehicle/sierra based) not only did they fill a hole in there market people were able to afford a westfield. (like yourselves people want a z cars, they dont want C**p)
people have got 3 choices at the minute
1- save up for a while ( in this day an age alot of people want things stright away, so its not an option)
2- Get a loan
3- You make starter pakages/ stage building
The point im trying to make is everyone needs a start point ,there must be alot of people that would love to have the quality of a z cars kit, that simply cant afford the start point, looking at the hits on this website their must be alot of potential customers out there (I certainly couldnt afford a z cars kit three years ago and im still in the same proffession now, i have had to work my way up)
Edited by adyzr1, 21 February 2007 - 12:55 PM.
Posted 21 February 2007 - 01:31 PM
Posted 21 February 2007 - 04:13 PM
Posted 23 February 2007 - 03:58 PM
ID BEEN LOOKING AT VERY LATE MODEL ONES CAN ANYONE TELL ME ARE THERE ANY DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE EARLY AND LATE ENGINES ETC
MY MAN WHO DOES THE HYDRA IGNITIONS USED TO BUILD THE ENGINES FOR HONDA TOURING CAR TEAM A FEW YEARS AGO AND TELLS ME BIG POWER IS NO PROBLEM
IF B16 ENGINES ARE £300 THEN A NICE MINI IS GOING TO BE RELATIVELY CHEAP
WE WOULD STILL DO THEM WITH THE FRONT SUBFRAME AS PART OF THE KIT SO THE ROLLING CHASSIS WOULD BE TOP SPEC STUFF WHICH WOULD LEAVE ROOM TO UPGRADE THE BRAKES AND POWER LATER IF YOU WANTED TO
ITS ALSO EASILY POSSIABLE TO SUPERCHARGE THESE MOTORS TO GET REAL NICE TORQUEY POWER FROM THEM WHICH WOULD EXCEED THE TYPE R POWER
IF ANYONES GOT A MOTOR OUT THERE AND WANTS TO BE THE FIRST WE WILL DO THE KIT AT THE NORMAL COST BUT THROW IN A FEW GOODIES TO SWEETEN THE DEAL
I COULD DO WITH A B16 REALLY AS I HAVE A B18 ALREADY
Posted 23 February 2007 - 04:04 PM
You'll be able to get alot more info from 16v mini and a CRX forum.
Posted 23 February 2007 - 04:15 PM
Posted 25 February 2007 - 02:56 PM
Is it OK to visit you sometime as my mum lies in derby so i can mission it to yours and check out the kits?
Posted 02 March 2007 - 07:55 AM
i know how hard it is to get everything you want in life if you havent the immediate funds to do it
if you want to visit then by all means come up and see me just e mail or ring first to make sure im in
we start racing soon so i will be open a little less on a weekend
we will be doing the first B18 kit in the next couple of weeks
Posted 20 March 2007 - 02:44 PM
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