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#1 CharlieBrown

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 07:40 PM

Right guys,

I have got a safety devices roll cage (rear cage - detachable diagonal). I have got it in but I not 100% sure how to bolt it in.

For the two bars that go on the rear wheel arches, I have to bend the plates to the right curve. Then drill the holes through the arch then put the plates under the wheel arches and bolt them together (sandwich style).

Is that right? It seems ok. (Bending the plates seems the hardest bit)



But,

The bars that are in the rear bins seem alot harder to do.

Am I drillling through the hollow sills?

If I bolt through the hollow sills wont they crush?

(sandwich style again)

Am I missing something?


Cheers,


Confused Charlie

Ps I have to sort this by Friday as Im going to Italy!! :erm:

#2 Miniman

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 09:00 PM

Sorry mate Cnt Help U There Wuld If I Culd

#3 Bluemini

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 09:08 PM

Bolt it up and it'll bend to the right shape as the bolts tighten down. Dont forget to put the bolts thru from underneath and have the nuts on the inside. Drilling the holes in the pockets is the hardest bit, use a self punching centre punch to make a dent for the drill bit to sit in else you'll find the bit wanders all over the place.

#4 CharlieBrown

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 09:58 PM

So what about the hollow sills????

Come on Siggy, empart thy wisdom!

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 10:04 PM

Come on Siggy, empart thy wisdom!


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Posted 19 October 2004 - 05:56 AM

Just bolt it up, they wont squash because of the sandwich plates spreading the load.

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 06:10 AM

In the pockets , go through with a pilot drill from inside then the full size drill bit from the out side , my hollow sections squashed :grin:

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 07:19 AM

IIRC It should only have hollow sections it oversillS have been fitted, even then it should only be at the most 10mm.

Make sure any plates you are using have all the corners rounded off. The spreader plates should really be welded in place.
Fit the bolts with the threads inside the body.
Remove any carpet that may be in the way.


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Posted 19 October 2004 - 07:56 AM

Cheers Guys!!!!

Thanks for your help!

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Posted 19 October 2004 - 01:17 PM

what sorta plates do u need to fit a cage? im guessing u ned plates to go under the floorpan and bolt through? to stop it ever pulling through the floor?
ive got a cage at home im going to fit soon (6point) but i dont have any plates or bolts at all
ill be buying some bolts from a local hardware store, but what should the plates be made of? and how big should tehy be?
thanks
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Posted 20 October 2004 - 07:04 PM

was going to say put the bolts trough from outside but you all beat me to it!! m10 bolts sticking through from inside eat tyres for breakfast.

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 07:10 PM

Im going to The Mini Hospital on Friday to fit it.

So fingers crossed, it will be sorted soon.

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 11:09 PM

Prawn, a decent cage should have come with all the fittings you need as they are just as important as the cage itself. Only as good as the weakest link and all that. If you do just get the bolts from the hardware shop make sure they are the correct grade of steel, as they need to be strong enough to resist at least the shells tendency to twist. If they can't cope with that then they'll get weakened quite quickly in use and when you call upon them in a crash or whatever they may just snap. Any old bolts WON'T do.

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Posted 20 October 2004 - 11:56 PM

As Dan says it MUST be fitted corectly, a badly fitted cage is probably worse than none.

Personally I think that those cages that bolt in to the seat belt mounts are dangerous

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Posted 21 October 2004 - 08:20 AM

thanks guys, id NEVER use a cage that bolted tothe seatbelt mounts, that just stupid :S:S:S
the cage i have is second hand, and came out of a sprint car and hence has no fittings, as i was just given the cage alone
i can get decent bolts from the local store, tehy sell every form of nut and botl imaginable
what thickness should the plates underneath be?




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