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#1 philmin1

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:31 AM

Just looking at options for the moment - am i right in thinking that there is no way to get my Zcars mini on the road without an SVA being passed? Even if I don't use all new parts and haven't had every part reconditioned to "as new"

Do we have an FAQ on it somewhere? i couldn't see one.

thanks for the help
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#2 Timtom

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:53 AM

I may be wrong.. But if you alter the chassis of a car (with new or old bits) you have to have an SVA.. So it would seem.. You would have to have a SVA test.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 11:59 AM

grr legislation - all it needs it some headlights, indicators and a horn :- - why does it have to be so drawn out and silly!

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 12:48 PM

Hello,
A few people have just taken the car to an MOT centre that will test it and have passed and are on the road with the original registration, but if you look on the DVLA website here

http://www.direct.go...cle/DG_10014199

It says anything that has been radically altered must be SVA'd and registered with a Q reg if it fails the points system or a second-hand or modified chassis or altered monocoque bodyshell is used, a single vehicle approval (SVA) certificate will be required , but you can get a 07 reg if everything is new, I think your allowed one major component secondhand that has been reconned, look at this thread for more details

http://www.theminifo...x...8411&st=195

Cheers
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Edited by R1mini, 27 June 2007 - 12:52 PM.


#5 R1minimagic

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:23 PM

I think as long as the car is based on a shell that has already been registered then you are ok. I spent many an hour talking to DVLA etc on this and not one of the people i spoke to knew what the situation was!!

The first place i took it to for MOT were scared to give it an MOT because they had never seen one before and didnt want to lose their license, it sat there a week for a DVLA inspector to come out but he never came.

DVLA on the phone said to just take it and get an MOT, so i took it to another garage. They phoned up DVLA and they told them to just MOT it as a normal car, so they did!

The emissions are tested on the age of the car rather than the engine so i was ok.

Nobody asked me if it had passed an SVA test when i phoned for insurance, so i dont see what the problem is, you just need a friendly garage that is prepared to MOT the car.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 09:04 PM

I think as long as the car is based on a shell that has already been registered then you are ok. I spent many an hour talking to DVLA etc on this and not one of the people i spoke to knew what the situation was!!

The first place i took it to for MOT were scared to give it an MOT because they had never seen one before and didnt want to lose their license, it sat there a week for a DVLA inspector to come out but he never came.

DVLA on the phone said to just take it and get an MOT, so i took it to another garage. They phoned up DVLA and they told them to just MOT it as a normal car, so they did!

The emissions are tested on the age of the car rather than the engine so i was ok.

Nobody asked me if it had passed an SVA test when i phoned for insurance, so i dont see what the problem is, you just need a friendly garage that is prepared to MOT the car.



Thanks - What garage did you use - maybe I could go there :-
It would be worth the trip.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 08:38 AM

Question; in case of an accident. Will your insurance pay out if you have a very altered car?

Here in Holland you could get into a lot of problems with that.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:08 AM

Yes, but obviously you must list all the alterations to the insurance company

Cheers
David

Edited by R1mini, 28 June 2007 - 10:09 AM.


#9 Renessy

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 03:26 PM

Good one.

I don't know if that can be done in Holland but worth a try. Will phone my insurance compagny. Could save an SVA test, transport to and from England and RDW check for me....

About 1500 pounds......

René

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 01:00 PM

Right as an mot tester i had the idea of asking my local vosa guy. The vehicle has a certain amount of points for each section suspension engine interior body if any amount of these parts are changed the points add up and beyond a set amount of points they q plate the vehicle as it is already a pre registered vehicle look a the vosa web site for more info on the sva test. Hope this helps

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Posted 01 July 2007 - 02:06 PM

Vosa were not interested in testing mine as it is already registered and VIC ed. I showed them it and they loved it :shifty:

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 07:01 PM

i have just come back from a SVA place , we took at mates kit car there (caterham looking thing) it failed sadly on silly little things,

but anyway,

i asked the guy who was sva'ing my mates car about mine, (thought might as well while i was there,)

HE SAID (his words)

if i was in your situation i wouldnt bother, if a garage deems it fit to be on the road you should be ok,
if you have a V5 on the origional car you should be fine as you wont need a Q plate,

the thing you have in your favour is the fact that it is still shaped like a mini and if someone was hit by you
they would reflect of the body shell the same as you would be if you was hit by a 998cc mayfair.

SVA tests are mainly there on bodywork and detail of work,
they are mainly interested in things such as good brakes and safety of people who may get hit by the vehicle,

end of quote.
;;;;;;;

the thng that scared me the most was the fact of how my mates kit car was driven around the hanger where it was tested, it was put
into the brake testing rollers with the front wheels in it slammed down in the hole, his sump hit so hard i felt it in the floor where i was standing,

i have done some measurements and with my back wheels in the hole .,i have worked out if my car was to go into that brake testing rollers i would land on the
exhaust manifold!!!! it would make a right bloody mess! this happen to anyone ?

the garage im taking it to is a mate of mine and he said he will do a Deacellaroter test (excuse spelling) out on the road with me instead of
putting it on the roller hole. :thumbsup:





soooo

spoonz

Edited by Spoonz, 25 August 2007 - 07:03 PM.


#13 koss

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Posted 25 August 2007 - 08:29 PM

Sva stations use the decelerator thingy. I was surprised that there is no minimum ground clearance, so some cars don't go on the rollers. And even better if its got abs they don't test the brakes.




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