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#1 Jordie

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 06:10 PM

Right. Swapping my drums for 8.4" disk brakes.

I will be starting the conversion on friday and completing on saturday.

I am just checking if i have missed anything.

So far the tools i have listed are;

Brake adjusting tool for rear drums
7mm spanner, 1/4" spanner for bleeding rear drums
Balljoint seperator
2ton Jack
2x Axle Stands
4x 12" Wheel
Ezibleed - bleeding kit.
2ltr Brake Fluid.

I have a full set of sockets and spanners available. The disks are complete, just need driveshafts pushing into engine and balljoints fastened up. They come with hoses.

I also will be changing the pads and discs one day...may be after weekend, will i need any special tools for this?

Cheers guys.

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 06:16 PM

Grease/spray lube! I tend to put a bit on every nut/bolt that I refit, makes further maintenance a LOT easier and enjoyable!

Also make sure you got a Fkn big socket for the disc hub nut!


Actually come to thik of it you might not need it... Just slide out one assembly and slide the other one in ;p

I'd replace the copper washers on the brake hose to caliper fitting!

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 06:26 PM

Will be copper greasing all nuts etc.

Wont be changing disks till the brakes are fitted and working, so thats not a rush job.

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 08:54 PM

To fit 12s on the rear you need the spacered drums and longer studs

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:11 PM

yeah i know dave. Got some sorted i think. Cheers

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:22 PM

try to get a bit of wd or something similar onto your brake hoses where they mount onto the subframe and where the copper brake pipe screws into the hose, as they can be tricky to undo without damaging the copper brake pipe male connection. Unless your going to leave the drum brake hoses on and put those into the caliper, i'm not sure if they are the same thread (i'm guessing they are though)

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:27 PM

if i cant get them off, i will leave the drum hoses on. I will try give them a spray tomorrow.

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:41 PM

DRUM HOSES ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS CALIPAR HOSES

AND AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN GOOD NICK WOULD LEAVE THEM ON

AS CAN CAUSE YOU MORE GRIEF THAN ITS WORTH TRING TO CHANGE THEM

JUST MAKE SURE WHEN ON CALIPARS THEY ARE NOT TWISTED AS WILL FAIL THE MOT :saywhat:

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Posted 12 January 2005 - 09:42 PM

MOT is months off so not really a problem. but twists and bends can be dangerous in brake lines... so i will watch out for that.

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 10:21 AM

Your bolts should be torqued dry, no lube and no locktite, as that will change the torque settings, and you could possibly strip threads...

Drum brake likes are an inch or so longer than disk, and you'll find that the hose will have a tendancy to rub on the tiebar when used with calipers, this is not a problem but will cause a wearspot on the pipe, must go on the list of things to check at service time..

Apart from that, to get the units on without removing the driveshaft from the hub, you will have to split the inner pot from the shaft ( as it will not fit through the hole in the subframe ) by undoing the boot and withdrawing the shaft with the inner of the cv ( put a latexglove or plastic bag over the end of the shaft to prevent anything dropping out and getting lost and also dirt ingress. You will then be able to pus the shaft through the hole in the subframe and re-engage in to the pot which you have previously pushed into the diff.

That's about it.. ( fairly easy realy ) and don't foret to bleed your brakes when complete.. :cheese:

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 10:23 AM

Oh...

Add Torque Wrench to you needed list of tools !

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Posted 13 January 2005 - 10:26 AM

As has been said by guessworks the drum lines ARE a bit longer and could cause you problems at MOT, and if possible do replace them with the appropriate hoses. Or if you have 25 quid to spare get a car set of stainless braided hoses from Huddersfield :ohno:




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