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[mighty_mini]

Ive been offered a clubman estate from a guy i saw about some parts the other day. Its a 1963, and the back ends had a pretty big smack. Im thinking of reshelling it with my spare clubby estate shell im currently working on. Question is, do i just MOT it and buy some tax.. or is there other things i need to do, like contact dvla about the change?

[Guess-Works.com]

First of all they did not make clubmans in 1963 !.... but..

if you intend on retaining the identity of the original vehicle the shell must either be rebuilt or replaced with a NEW shell ( not one from another vehicle )

You can put the mechanics of the donor into your shell, retaining some of the major hardware ( subframes, suspension, steering ) from yours, and then retain the identiity of your shell.

Any other option will result in the necessity of an SVA test and a "Q" plate.

http://www.dvla.gov....es/regrebil.htm

[Bungle]

you can replace the shell if thats all you replace the dvla give different parts of the car a number and providing you score over a certan number you can keep the identity of the car

the only problem is i cant remember the numbers for the parts of the car :sad:

[Dan]

Not any more you can't. That's the way it worked last time I did a re-shell but they have changed the rules. You MUST now use the original or a new unused replacement shell (with supporting documents, like a receipt) plus two other major components from the donor in order to retain the identity of the vehicle.

[Bungle]

thats new then

when did it change ?

what happens now with kit cars do they have Q plates or is the new body class as a new shell ?

[Guess-Works.com]

Basically it's all in the link above, but kitcars, as probably you and me remeber them, where you get a grp bodyshell and a chassis, as long as you use the major parts of the donor, it will retain the registration of the donor. I assume this works on the preconception that the kit is new / unregistered and hence essentially a 'new' shell.

The difference between this and reshelling with an original / new shell is that a kit car will need to undergo an ESVA/SVA test before it will be allowed to go on the road.

If more than one donor is used then the "Q" plate rule applies, and again the ESVA/SVA test.

I think it all changed a few years ago when the SVA and VIC was introduced.

SVA - Single Vehicle Approval
ESVA - Enhanced Single Vehicle Approval
VIC - Vechicle identification Check.

[andyps]

Basically, for a kit car if you use a new chassis (which most of them effectively are) and enough main components from one donor - engine, transmission usually count as enough - then you get an age related (from the donor) plate, not the plate from the donor. If the components come from amny sources, or the chassis cannot be proved to be new, it will get a Q plate.

Not that I would ever suggest someone should do it, but with old minis it surely isn't too hard to swap the chassis numbers from one shell to another is it?? :wink:

[clubman_dan]

how about if you use a brand new shell which isnt form BMH, like the fibreglass fra shells? does it still have to be sva'd if you do that ???

[Guess-Works.com]

The clue is in the wording..

A new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original supported by evidence from the dealer/manufacturer (e.g. receipt)

Which a FibreGlass shell is not.

[mighty_mini]

Damnit, To ring or not to ring.. that is the question.... ddi you see in last months miniworld the 1100 clubman which comprised of a city shell clubman flipfront, and he had black plates on it. Hmm.

I'd like to see a mini pass an SVA test thats for sure, first of all the roof gutter fails as it has sharp edges where the drainage gap is at.


*waves fist at the goverment*