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#1 ckneller321

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 10:45 PM

www.geronimocages.co.uk

does anyone have one of these in their car?
how easy r they to fit? n do they fit well? as in quite close and snug

#2 Dan

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:02 PM

Have no experience of them in particular but I have looked at their site and I don't like the look of their sleeve joints. That would be what is normally called a spigot joint and spigots are supposed to be something like three times the tube diameter in length each side of the join, even then they have no real strength against deflection. If I ever have to spigot any tubes at work I always find they need lapping with a longer tube as well. I don't know if theirs are supposed to be welded or whatever but it should still be longer than it is in the photo. Clamps may be ugly but they work.
If I was buying a roll cage I would want to get it from somewhere who can make FIA spec cages, whether the one I was buying was FIA or not (but then I would always go for at least an RAC approval if not FIA). It just shows that they are able to build to the highest spec and gives more confidence in the product. Just my opinion though and having said that all the cages at work are custom built as and when we need them by our action car engineers and never get anywhere near an approval but they are still plenty strong.

I'll edit the link in your post to make it practical. I don't know if I can edit in this part of the forum but I'll have a go.

Nope, can't do it. Oh well, I'm sure someone else will. Where is James when you need him?

Edited by Dan, 13 April 2007 - 11:03 PM.


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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:15 PM

I have one of their cages on order should have it soon saying that i ordered it ages ago and it is past how long thay said it would take, Can give you more info when it arrives

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:24 PM

that would be great, cheers

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:24 PM

Why does a cage called "Geronimo" not fill me with a safe feeling.

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Posted 13 April 2007 - 11:38 PM

don't know but it sounds like this to me "let's wing it and see what happens, k chaps?"
lol doesn't instill confindence in me either.

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 12:46 AM

Nope, can't do it. Oh well, I'm sure someone else will. Where is James when you need him?

Flying around the world saving people from disasters *superman smilie*

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 06:56 AM

i've got one of them cages, it did take ages to come, it took about 2 months after i ordered it.

i've got the standard six point cage, its made from really thick tubing and looks really strong,

the only thing that worrys my about it is the roof bars are right about my head!!!,

as for fitting, its the only cage we've fitted so i can really compare it to anything else, the old rachet strap around the back 'legs' would of helped in hindsight, we didn't think of it then!!! :withstupid:

the only major problem we had we putting the roof bars in, with the sleeve joints it was near impossiable to get the bars in, so we chooped a inch off them so we could get them in

let me know if you want any photos of it fitted

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 10:00 AM

yeah please if thats alright
thanks

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Posted 14 April 2007 - 11:42 AM

I don't like the look of those, the roof bars are just too dangerous and i'd class that as a design fault.
The roof bars should be further apart in my opinion, and the 33.7mm o.d. is a standard cage size.

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:28 AM

These cages caught my eye a while back. Would be good to see photos of one installed. I know the tubing is seamed rather than seamless but surely anything is better than nothing right?

Edited by gavfoz, 15 April 2007 - 09:15 AM.


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Posted 15 April 2007 - 11:41 AM

Well, no not really.

A roll cage, even an FIA one makes your car a lot more dangerous of a place to be unless you are in a proper race seat and harness and wearing a helmet and the cage is fully padded because of things like this :

the only thing that worrys my about it is the roof bars are right about my head!!!,


The only justification to have one is that it will keep the car in shape in a really severe, high speed impact or if something bigger and heavier lands on it. A cage made with seamed tubing may well not do that, there is a good chance that it will burst down the seams instead and start bending which is why all the standards for race cages (and the cages we build at work) require seamless tube. So if it makes the cabin more dangerous and may not even protect you when you need it to then why have it?

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Posted 15 April 2007 - 05:46 PM

hey here are some photos of the cage fitted, sorry they are a bit random, if you want any others let me know

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 08:59 AM

I don't get why the roof bars are so far in towards the centre of the car!? ;)

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Posted 16 April 2007 - 10:14 AM

any cage is better than none at all ,i talk from experience!"

i had a single hoop cage with wheel arch stays made from mini exhaust
fitted in a triumph herald, we went out down a country single track road
and rolled the car on a bend ,we ended up back on the wheels facing where we
had come from!!
I had removed the roof before we went out as it was a sunny day,
luckily this minimal cage saved our lives!!!!!!!!!
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the rear stays dented the wheel arches
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hoop only bent where i had drilled it to mount a speaker.
It was bolted down, thats a must!

Edited by camp freddy, 16 April 2007 - 10:18 AM.





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