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#1 mickbyrne

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:58 AM

Hi all, I have been thinking of a g10 engine for my mini. I know they only make 50 odd horse,but if if cruises at 75-80 on motorway and does 50mpg that would be fine.

 I have picked up an auto subframe,as they are a bit wider than the manual ones.

 Has anyone done this?  I dont want to cut the inner wings off,as mine are rot free(yes-really!).

 

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:17 AM

I follow a guy on Facebook who has done this:

https://www.facebook...000.1382602568.



#3 mickbyrne

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:24 PM

Cheers for that, its good to know its been done. Off now for angle grinder and welder!!



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:00 PM

I was doing one, but never managed to finish it. You can find my build on 16v minis - Project Minuki



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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:55 PM

Small world, that was me, did 3 of them, sold 6 frame kits for it. Been out of the g10 swap biz for a little while now. I am building currently my 1098 estate with a chevy sprint turbo, intercooler, etc pulled from the g10t engine. If you got any questions let me know. And honestly you can get away with the stock frame and trimming pieces out and reinforcing, or cutting from towers forward and doing a tube setup. As far as mileage with the g10t was roughly a little over 50+mpg running 7lbs of boost. The NA g10 achieved roughly 60+ mpg. Not bad. It is a small, light motor, but certain areas are tight and you have to get creative with alternator placement. 

 

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#6 mickbyrne

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:12 AM

Hi, thanks for reply. I have a few questions, Has the suzuki got a chipped key? 

                                                                    Mine has 8.4" discs and a servo-what master cylinder are you using?

                                                                    Were there any issues with the gear linkage?

                                                                    

  I like the recycled clutch cylinder,very neat.

 

 60mpg sounds great, petrol over here is £6 a gallon now !!!!

 Good luck with turbo estate,will be great fun.

  

 Cheers, off to work now (bike mechanic)



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 12:21 PM

Suzuki didn't have a chipped key on any that I did, they were all 1992 Motors/Gearbox. Those engines are normally cable clutch, you just reverse the arm to push it with the mini slave, instead of pulling with the cable. Red piece is a little plate you fab up to mount it. As far as brakes, 2 of them had the 8.4's one had the 7.5's. Always did the yellow band dual master, no brake booster. There is room relocate it I suppose to the LHD side, but I have always felt the dual master was fine for the simplicity of the engine bay. The "black cherry" Mini was a 91 or so German Spec Mini, so it was LHD, and had the bar that went across to the RHD side booster, pulled all that and sold it off. Gear linkage was fairly easy, the Geo shifter pretty much bolts into the stock location, just need to modify the bars a little bit.

 

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Yes very excited.



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Posted 26 October 2013 - 07:08 AM

Hi,ta for advice, just another couple of questions, I am running 12" wheels 165/60. What diameter   wheels have you used? I am a little concerned over it being undergeared as the suzuki runs 13" as stock.

 I was planning to use a kubota mini digger alternator,they are tiny and have a decent output.

 Thanks



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:04 PM

Tire size is not to big of a deal, we have run 10's,12's, and 13's. They all are very close on the highway. Honestly I can't remember the RPMs it turns at free way speed but with the 5th gear it was happy to cruise along and not be like some of the other swaps, IE the Honda b18 without a final gear swap I was turning 3800-4200 cruising on the highway. The Kubota alternator not sure about (how many amps does it put out?), I have been looking at other suzuki ones, and lately just a generic Denso one wire setup to try out, You can get the denso ones in 45,50,60,75amp outputs. TTYL



#10 DomCr250

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 05:45 PM

You can swap the 1L box for a 1.3GS box, the final drive ratio will be much better for your usage - if you stick with the 1L three pot box 1st gear wont be that much use, so it's more like having a four speed box.  And yes, it's a straight swap, no mods involved at all.

 

Swift 1.3GS boxes come up on ebay ....you are looking at about £100, less if you can source it privately.

 

The subframe mods are very similar to what you need to fit a 16V GTI lump, so as Minuki says take a look on the 16V forum and you will see what you need to do.

 

You can source a complete 1L swift for well under £300 as a runner, so that gives you everything you need ...may advice is to use the compete Suzuki loom and just attach the mini end bits (lights and indicators) ...keeps it really simple.

 

I'd stick the alternator under the wing ...it works 100% and it's tried and tested,


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 08:11 AM

Does anybody know if a 1999 swift 1.3 gearbox will fit my 1992 swift gti gb13 engine?

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Posted 07 February 2018 - 09:07 PM

Hi Guys, I recently saw that someone has done this will this be a straight swap? i think the bolsters on the suzuki swift seats will help massively whilst offroading. Thanks

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Posted 18 April 2021 - 09:34 PM

Hi,

 

Did any of you managed to finish this in UK?

I have started mine and I will be turbo charging it to make it G10t.

 

Cheers

Atchi



#14 DomCr250

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Posted 27 June 2021 - 01:42 PM

Hi,

 

Did any of you managed to finish this in UK?

I have started mine and I will be turbo charging it to make it G10t.

 

Cheers

Atchi

Atchi, how are you mounting the turbo?  Also, are you using a turbo chip in the standard ECU?  I'm toying with building another mini, but using a G10 instead of the G13B I have in the yellow one.... which is still flying along after 13 years.






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